Gold Museum of Peru and Arms of the World

Tim Simmons · 7th January 2019, 11:13 PM

A wonderful collection. With world arms not just marvels from ancient Peru. It will take time give you a taste of what is there. 3 pics to get start. Ancient stone axe and some modern stuff.

Tim Simmons · 7th January 2019, 11:41 PM

An axe and super one piece bronze star club with some other bits and bobs.

Tim Simmons · 7th January 2019, 11:57 PM

Give any tsuba a good hiding.

Tim Simmons · 8th January 2019, 12:32 AM

Some people have a yen for this kind of thing

Tim Simmons · 8th January 2019, 12:41 AM

Bits and pieces here and there.

kahnjar1 · 8th January 2019, 02:29 AM

Very impressive. Thanks so much Tim for sharing.
Stu

David · 8th January 2019, 02:32 AM

Interestingly varied collections.
I'm not sure how or if this applies to any of the weapons in their collections, but back about 20 years ago it was determined that the vast majority of their collection of pre-Columbian gold artifact were in fact fake.

https://www.forbes.com/2002/01/09/01...l#4a5809e2285f

TVV · 8th January 2019, 06:48 AM

Thank you for sharing those pictures, some interesting items in the arms collections. What is the story behind the ethnographic arms from around the world - was this someone's personal collection that was donated to the Museum?

colin henshaw · 8th January 2019, 07:12 AM

Good stuff Tim, thanks for posting.

eftihis · 8th January 2019, 08:08 AM

Thank you Tim! I remeber there was a place in the wall saying "turkish weapons". Do you have a photo of that part?

Tim Simmons · 8th January 2019, 07:43 PM

Much more to add. Interesting the fake claims. Something easy to say and once sad sticks around. I must admit I was surprised at the quality of craftsmanship on a lot of it when compared to what's in the archaeology museum. Saying that how strong is the analysis it could be falable but the shout is out.

Another thought why use old gold pieces to make new ones. Did the old gold pieces have no value?

Bill M · 8th January 2019, 08:01 PM

Thank you for posting these. I have an interesting Pre-Columbian artifacts from Vera Cruz, Colima, Peru, Valdivia Nazca . One is a "shaman in flight"no weapons

Like David said, many of the Pre-Columbian artifacts are fake. I was fortunate to have mine vetted by a Pre-Columbian expert. Most of mine came from Lew Deadmore Col (deceased)

Tim Simmons · 8th January 2019, 08:15 PM

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Tim Simmons · 8th January 2019, 08:22 PM

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Tim Simmons · 8th January 2019, 10:22 PM

Indeed the Larco has been tarred by the same brush though to my eye the quality of artistry was supreme.

David · 8th January 2019, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVV

Thank you for sharing those pictures, some interesting items in the arms collections. What is the story behind the ethnographic arms from around the world - was this someone's personal collection that was donated to the Museum?

It seems like the entire shabang was somebodies personal collections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_M...s_of_the_World

TVV · 8th January 2019, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

It seems like the entire shabang was somebodies personal collections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_M...s_of_the_World

Thank you. Cannot comment on the Pre-Columbian artifacts, but the arms collections is quite impressive.

Tim Simmons · 9th January 2019, 12:22 AM

There's more to come it really is huge and I only took few snaps.

Bill M · 9th January 2019, 01:47 AM

Beautiful collection! The crystal handle on the daggers are incredible in the last picture.

I had a horse head dagger similar in the same picture, but gave it to a friend. It had a type of name that escapes me.

Tim Simmons · 9th January 2019, 01:10 PM

And more.

7th January 2019, 11:13 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Gold Museum of Peru and Arms of the World A wonderful collection. With world arms not just marvels from ancient Peru. It will take time give you a taste of what is there. 3 pics to get start. Ancient stone axe and some modern stuff. Attached Images

7th January 2019, 11:41 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	An axe and super one piece bronze star club with some other bits and bobs. Attached Images

7th January 2019, 11:57 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Give any tsuba a good hiding. Attached Images

8th January 2019, 12:41 AM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Bits and pieces here and there. Attached Images

8th January 2019, 07:43 PM	#11
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Much more to add. Interesting the fake claims. Something easy to say and once sad sticks around. I must admit I was surprised at the quality of craftsmanship on a lot of it when compared to what's in the archaeology museum. Saying that how strong is the analysis it could be falable but the shout is out. Another thought why use old gold pieces to make new ones. Did the old gold pieces have no value? Last edited by Tim Simmons; 8th January 2019 at 08:07 PM.

8th January 2019, 12:32 AM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Some people have a yen for this kind of thing Attached Images

8th January 2019, 02:29 AM	#6
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	Very impressive. Thanks so much Tim for sharing. Stu

8th January 2019, 02:32 AM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,113	Interestingly varied collections. I'm not sure how or if this applies to any of the weapons in their collections, but back about 20 years ago it was determined that the vast majority of their collection of pre-Columbian gold artifact were in fact fake. https://www.forbes.com/2002/01/09/01...l#4a5809e2285f

8th January 2019, 06:48 AM	#8
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,620	Thank you for sharing those pictures, some interesting items in the arms collections. What is the story behind the ethnographic arms from around the world - was this someone's personal collection that was donated to the Museum?

8th January 2019, 07:12 AM	#9
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Good stuff Tim, thanks for posting.

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eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 507	Thank you Tim! I remeber there was a place in the wall saying "turkish weapons". Do you have a photo of that part?

8th January 2019, 08:01 PM	#12
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Thank you for posting these. I have an interesting Pre-Columbian artifacts from Vera Cruz, Colima, Peru, Valdivia Nazca . One is a "shaman in flight"no weapons Like David said, many of the Pre-Columbian artifacts are fake. I was fortunate to have mine vetted by a Pre-Columbian expert. Most of mine came from Lew Deadmore Col (deceased)

8th January 2019, 08:15 PM	#13
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	More Attached Images

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Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	More Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 8th January 2019 at 08:33 PM.

8th January 2019, 10:22 PM	#15
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Indeed the Larco has been tarred by the same brush though to my eye the quality of artistry was supreme.

9th January 2019, 12:22 AM	#18
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	There's more to come it really is huge and I only took few snaps. Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 9th January 2019 at 12:43 AM.

9th January 2019, 01:47 AM	#19
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Beautiful collection! The crystal handle on the daggers are incredible in the last picture. I had a horse head dagger similar in the same picture, but gave it to a friend. It had a type of name that escapes me.

9th January 2019, 01:10 PM	#20
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	And more. Attached Images