A strange (west?) Javanese Keris.

Bjorn · 3rd August 2018, 09:33 PM

Might it not be a possibility that the hilt was carved in the very west of Sunda or in the very south of Sumatra?
There should be some overlap between those two areas considering the proximity.

Perhaps someone can recognize the style of the carvings to determine with a greater degree of accuracy from which region this jejeran hails.

Rick · 3rd August 2018, 10:12 PM

It looks like Palembang style to me.

kai · 4th August 2018, 03:55 AM

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It looks like Palembang style to me.

Looks rather Minang to me, Rick...

Regards,
Kai

Jean · 4th August 2018, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

Looks rather Minang to me, Rick...

Regards,
Kai

The style of carving (nose, motifs, etc) do not look Minang but rather South Sumatra IMO although it is not a standard design.
Athanase, is the colour of the warangka original or dyed? (have a look deep inside the slot).
Regards

David · 5th August 2018, 05:23 PM

I tend to agree with Jean that the motifs of this hilt do not quite look Minang.

Athanase · 5th August 2018, 11:01 PM

The color of warangka is like in second picture but just a little less shiny.
I don't think that is dyed because I have cleaned with acetone the glue of sticker with price and the color didn't change.
I just see wax on warangka.

Athanase · 7th August 2018, 12:03 PM

Inside the sheath the wood is lighter, but already a little orange. As with the majority of sheaths, I think polishing and waxing (or oil?) make the color of the wood darker and more intense.

kai · 4th August 2018, 04:00 AM

Hello Bjorn,

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Might it not be a possibility that the hilt was carved in the very west of Sunda or in the very south of Sumatra?
There should be some overlap between those two areas considering the proximity.

The Sundanese were very active in southern Sumatra - thus, no surprise that Sumatran pieces might have ended up there.

With keris hilts it is almost always risky to assume that any combination really is original though...

Regards,
Kai

3rd August 2018, 09:33 PM	#1
Bjorn Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 188	Might it not be a possibility that the hilt was carved in the very west of Sunda or in the very south of Sumatra? There should be some overlap between those two areas considering the proximity. Perhaps someone can recognize the style of the carvings to determine with a greater degree of accuracy from which region this jejeran hails.

3rd August 2018, 10:12 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	It looks like Palembang style to me.

5th August 2018, 05:23 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	I tend to agree with Jean that the motifs of this hilt do not quite look Minang.

5th August 2018, 11:01 PM	#6
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 408	The color of warangka is like in second picture but just a little less shiny. I don't think that is dyed because I have cleaned with acetone the glue of sticker with price and the color didn't change. I just see wax on warangka.

7th August 2018, 12:03 PM	#7
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 408	Inside the sheath the wood is lighter, but already a little orange. As with the majority of sheaths, I think polishing and waxing (or oil?) make the color of the wood darker and more intense.