" Death Shroud" Pamor ??

BluErf · 23rd March 2006, 12:38 AM

I think many death shroud pamor blades made today have no steel core. The pamor metal is simply twisted, hammered flat and fused back to itself to create the "wrapped" look. If there is a steel core, it would probably only show through partially along the edges (if not completely covered by pamor) and at the tip.

Rick · 23rd March 2006, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

I think many death shroud pamor blades made today have no steel core. The pamor metal is simply twisted, hammered flat and fused back to itself to create the "wrapped" look. If there is a steel core, it would probably only show through partially along the edges (if not completely covered by pamor) and at the tip.

I will check for a steel core ; thanks Kai Wee !

The dealer got this example some years ago from an eclectic mix of rusty keris blades and other such stuff offered for sale ; he stated that the whole blade was very gummy and fragrant (sandalwood oil build up ?) and he could barely see the pattern until he cleaned the goo off . From his description I think it may be an adeg pamor but we shall see tomorrow .

Big antique show in Palm Beach this weekend ...

Andrew , you're the first guy I shouted to !

Looking forward to hooking up w/you Bro .
Lynne may not come down ; I'm afraid she's caught the flu .

Naga Sasra · 23rd March 2006, 05:13 AM

Rick,
I sent you an email!

Andrew · 23rd March 2006, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I will check for a steel core ; thanks Kai Wee !

The dealer got this example some years ago from an eclectic mix of rusty keris blades and other such stuff offered for sale ; he stated that the whole blade was very gummy and fragrant (sandalwood oil build up ?) and he could barely see the pattern until he cleaned the goo off . From his description I think it may be an adeg pamor but we shall see tomorrow .

Big antique show in Palm Beach this weekend ...

Andrew , you're the first guy I shouted to !

Looking forward to hooking up w/you Bro .
Lynne may not come down ; I'm afraid she's caught the flu .

Maybe we can hook up Saturday for that show!

Rick · 23rd March 2006, 03:02 PM

That sounds like a decent possibility Andrew ; I'll know today whether Lynne will be coming down .

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Lynne will be coming today but she'll probably take a pass on the show .

Rick · 26th March 2006, 01:16 AM

Today I met up with Naga Sasra , Mick and Andrew .
Needless to say I am suffering from keris overload and must process all I have seen for a few days .

Kai Wee , the consensus was that the tombak blade is not new and is in fact laid over a core . Exciting news for me !

The gentlemen I met with today are of the finest order and I am very grateful for a chance to absorb some of their extensive cumulative knowledge in the field of keris .

/oh yeah , they're great guys too !!

BluErf · 26th March 2006, 04:13 AM

Ooh!! Now, that calls for pictures when the item is safely in your hands, Rick!

Andrew · 26th March 2006, 05:21 AM

What a great day! Many, many thanks to Naga Sasra and his lovely wife for their generous hospitality. It was great seeing Rick and Mick again, and I feel truly privileged to have had the opportunity to see and handle so many wonderful keris and tombak today.

You guys are incredibly generous with your experience and knowlege. Thank you for sharing and entertaining my endless queries of "so...what am I looking at here?"

23rd March 2006, 03:02 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	That sounds like a decent possibility Andrew ; I'll know today whether Lynne will be coming down . [edit] Lynne will be coming today but she'll probably take a pass on the show . Last edited by Rick; 23rd March 2006 at 03:22 PM.

26th March 2006, 01:16 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	I Have Been To School Today I met up with Naga Sasra , Mick and Andrew . Needless to say I am suffering from keris overload and must process all I have seen for a few days . Kai Wee , the consensus was that the tombak blade is not new and is in fact laid over a core . Exciting news for me ! The gentlemen I met with today are of the finest order and I am very grateful for a chance to absorb some of their extensive cumulative knowledge in the field of keris . /oh yeah , they're great guys too !!

23rd March 2006, 12:38 AM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	I think many death shroud pamor blades made today have no steel core. The pamor metal is simply twisted, hammered flat and fused back to itself to create the "wrapped" look. If there is a steel core, it would probably only show through partially along the edges (if not completely covered by pamor) and at the tip.

23rd March 2006, 05:13 AM	#3
Naga Sasra Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boca Raton, Florida, USA Posts: 108	Rick, I sent you an email!

26th March 2006, 04:13 AM	#7
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Ooh!! Now, that calls for pictures when the item is safely in your hands, Rick!

26th March 2006, 05:21 AM	#8
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	What a great day! Many, many thanks to Naga Sasra and his lovely wife for their generous hospitality. It was great seeing Rick and Mick again, and I feel truly privileged to have had the opportunity to see and handle so many wonderful keris and tombak today. You guys are incredibly generous with your experience and knowlege. Thank you for sharing and entertaining my endless queries of "so...what am I looking at here?"