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29th September 2017, 09:10 PM | #1 |
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I have an open question here to all interested: what markings can be found on English hollowed short-swords i.e. the colichmarde variety and its successor? If I had Mr. Aylward's book I could probably answer that myself.
Referring to David Richardson's book - which I do have (I wish I could find the time to pdf it in its entirety; although I can put my hands on occasional copies, if anyone is very keen to own one I can probably acquire one for them): he states that SB only ever produced blades - never finishing the sword, as that was regarded as beneath them... they were only interested in the business end of the sword. So, if hollowed small-sword blades were coming from SB then Thomas Carnforth, the Newcastle cutler, would definitely be finishing and selling them locally, and otherwise. I need to get around the big houses hereabouts and look for family heirlooms. I think I'll try an advertisement/request for info in our local paper first. Can I rewind a tad and refer you all to that picture of Oley holding the last sword ever made in SB - at around 1838. It is quite distinctly what is described as a hangar with a cast brass hilt. (Incidentally, that photo was taken by David Richardson who was, of course, family. Oley took the sword down from the wall to be photographed holding it.) If they never finished swords in SB, how come Oley is holding a finished one? Was it sent off to be hilted then returned to his grandfather? Did we have a cutler hereabouts in the early 1800s; something else I must check. Mention by Ibrahiim of Thomas Bewick (our much venerated local engraver) reminds me of a Beilby engraved glass vessel that once resided in the showroom of Wilkinson Sword Ltd. and read: 'Success to the Swordmakers' on one side, and on the other were the initials of William and Ann Oley with the date 1767. How did WS get it, and where is it now? (It is something else that keeps implying that WS themselves always believed that Mohll of SB became Mole of Birmingham, which – apparently – we now know is not the case.) However, of more importance is the date of 1767 which doesn't suggest that the Oleys were struggling; and also to that end, we know this: "Situated thus, says Mr. Ryan, having abundance of employment and great remuneration, the Germans, and especially the Oleys, the principal proprietors, enjoyed a long-continued tide of prosperity. Their workmen had large wages, yet their own profits were very high ; the demand for their articles was insatiable ; a journey once a year to London included the whole of their travelling expenses ; and they, there-fore, soon acquired considerable property. When Mr. William Oley died in 1808, nearly the whole of the village and the immediate adjoining fields and gardens were left to his sons." Monthly Chronicle of North-Country Lore and Legend. Vol II, No. 15. May 1888. |
29th September 2017, 09:28 PM | #2 |
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Sorry Ibrahiim, I meant to thank you for the royal heritage information. To that end, let me add this to the mix, as it presents a very good picture of just how enormous the demand must have been for good blades:
The British Army 1685–1840 conflicts and wars: Jacobite Rebellions 1689–91; 1715–16; 1719; 1745–46 Williamite War in Ireland 1688–91 Battle of the Boyne 1690 War of the Spanish Succession 1701–1714 War of the Austrian Succession 1740 Carnatic Wars 1744– 1763 Seven Years' War 1754–1763 Anglo-Mysore Wars 1766– 1799 First Anglo-Maratha War 1775–1782 American Revolutionary War 1775–1783 French Revolutionary Wars 1792–1802 Second Anglo-Maratha War 1802–1805 Napoleonic Wars 1802–1813 Hundred Days 1815 The return of Napoleon Anglo-Nepalese War 1813–1816 Third Anglo-Maratha War 1817–1818 First Ashanti War 1823–1831 First Anglo-Burmese War 1824–1826 First Anglo-Afghan War 1839–1842 First Opium War 1839–1842 First Anglo Marri War 1840 Last edited by urbanspaceman; 29th September 2017 at 09:34 PM. Reason: extra dates |
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Complete D Richardson book scanned
OK, I set-to and scanned in the entire David Richardson book. I figured that considering how much effort he put into researching and writing it, and considering it will never see the light of day again, as both he and his publisher (Frank Graham) are - like the book - long gone, it behoved me to spend an hour and scan it in, considering I had already done one chapter anyway. So here it is; the introduction tells it all.[IMG]
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29th September 2017, 11:20 PM | #4 |
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The Hollow Blade
Here is the other local history book about the Shotley Bridge sword-makers, assuming I can link it. I've just tried to upload it and it's too large so I will split it into four sections.
John brought things up to date by drawing on info discovered following David Richardson's book, which he also draws on extensively. This book is not only long out of print but cannot even be found in second-hand bookshops; plus the local library copies have all been stolen bar one kept in the archives but which has been scanned and re-printed (rather poorly unfortunately) and is available to lend providing you agree to pay c.£150.00 if you don't return it (even this photocopy is this valuable!). As with Mr Richardson's book, I am equally certain John will be pleased to see his excellent endeavour disseminated amongst the cognoscenti et al Here is section one.[IMG] Last edited by urbanspaceman; 29th September 2017 at 11:29 PM. Reason: typo |
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The Hollow Blade part 2
Here's part 2:
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The Hollow Blade part 3
and part 3
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The Hollow Blade part 4
And finally part 4.
As I mentioned earlier, this is a photocopy of the last remaining copy of the book in the public library service here on Tyneside, so although the scanning is poor in places it is still a valuable document regarding the Shotley Bridge sword-makers. The remaining work on the subject is by Richard H. Bezdek called Swords and Sword Makers of England and Scotland and this is in current production including a perfect pdf download for a very reasonable price.[IMG] Last edited by urbanspaceman; 29th September 2017 at 11:34 PM. Reason: edit attachment (too large, removed pictures) |
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