wotsit (pioneer sword?)?

kronckew · 4th July 2017, 10:01 PM

the blade and marks fit, appears to have been repurposed, re-hilted and used in a later conflict. ww1 maybe? dad's army?

RobertGuy · 4th July 2017, 11:09 PM

Probably a private conversion rather than military. The facing arrow marks denote ''sold out of service''.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 5th July 2017, 04:08 PM

It looks like a Martini Bayonet ... The British 1879 Sawback Bayonet with a reworked hilt Or an AC bayonet converted from P1859 Cutlass bayonet in 1878. Favoured in Irish circles and as an Engineers / Artillery weapon... ?

See http://www.bayonetsplus.com/f_MH_art_carbine.html

But its not! This is exactly as set out above by Norman at # 2...

E-Pattern-English-Pioneer's 1831-Lion Head Hanger-

kronckew · 5th July 2017, 04:36 PM

yup. the later ones were straight and not well loved i hear. just imagine one of the MH sword bayos on the end of a full lrngth .45 cal martini-henry rifle.

nice to see the full 1830's weapon.

5th July 2017, 04:08 PM	#3
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	It looks like a Martini Bayonet ... The British 1879 Sawback Bayonet with a reworked hilt Or an AC bayonet converted from P1859 Cutlass bayonet in 1878. Favoured in Irish circles and as an Engineers / Artillery weapon... ? See http://www.bayonetsplus.com/f_MH_art_carbine.html But its not! This is exactly as set out above by Norman at # 2... E-Pattern-English-Pioneer's 1831-Lion Head Hanger- Attached Images Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 5th July 2017 at 04:28 PM.

5th July 2017, 04:36 PM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,178	yup. the later ones were straight and not well loved i hear. just imagine one of the MH sword bayos on the end of a full lrngth .45 cal martini-henry rifle. nice to see the full 1830's weapon. Last edited by kronckew; 5th July 2017 at 04:47 PM.

4th July 2017, 10:01 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,178	the blade and marks fit, appears to have been repurposed, re-hilted and used in a later conflict. ww1 maybe? dad's army?

4th July 2017, 11:09 PM	#2
RobertGuy Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 135	Probably a private conversion rather than military. The facing arrow marks denote ''sold out of service''.