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Picked up this interesting table yesterday . I was wondering where it may originate from and whether it is actually a table or whether , as I suspect, it is a door or part of a screen or window shutter that has been adapted. It all looks very old and nothing appears to have been added recently . Dimensions 1.5 m x 650 mm and very low at 200 mm .
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FWIW, it looks like legs were added later. My first impression was Indian, but I really have no idea.
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Indian Style...This is an Ayurveda massage table... You fill it with oil and get a massage on it... see https://www.google.com/search?q=indi...94lW13nDyTM%3A
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Possibly so, possibly no.
The central motif in this projection displays carving that in Jawa would be interpreted as a representation of a Gunungan, along with a Tree of Life. In Javanese understanding these two forms are analogous. Javanese culture, material and otherwise, is heavily influenced by Indian culture. |
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Not the vaguest idea.
I've never seen a low-line table like this in Jawa, but the carving style and general appearance of the thing could easily fit into a Javanese context. My comment was only intended to address the motif and perhaps start a different line of thought. In the Indian massage tables that I've seen, which are intended for use with oil, height is intended to facilitate use whilst standing, not whilst kneeling, and the projection at one end is bowl shaped to accept oil, most tables of this nature that I have seen have a border all round to prevent the oil dripping onto the floor. |
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The item is incomplete... It has legs added to two struts underneath and crudely cut into the main bench... It is a couple of feet too short as can be seen by the end which has been roughly cut off. I even suspect that it hung from ropes from the roof...or more likely a couple of nails to hang it on a wall. There are interesting holes at the carved end. It is an ex-massage table
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This is a part of a scrapping equipment (kitchen aid) used for cutting/ scrapping veggies and coconuts etc.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...a3bdbfbd40ddo0 something like the one on this link. The wooden section and the iron balde used for cutting/scrapping seems to be the missing part. Thanks, Bhushan |
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I THINK THAT IS INTERESTING... I NEVER SAW A BOARD ATTACHED TO THE CUTTING SPIKE ARRANGEMENT...HOWEVER, I THINK IT IS TOO SMALL AND DOES NOT HAVE THE ARCH AT THE TOP... I STICK WITH MY REFERENCED SITUATION AS A MASSAGE TABLE.
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Ibrahim, you mention that your opinion is backed by a reference.
My knowledge of massage tables does not extend to this type, so I've been trying to find a picture of one of these Indian massage tables that does not have a bowl, or other provision for oil incorporated into the projecting part at one end. Could you please oblige by sharing your reference with us? Thank you. |
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Speaking strictly as an old New England Yankee; that wood looks very much like very old Eastern White Pine.
I grew up in a farmhouse built in 1690 so I've seen more than a bit of it. Of course it's probably impossible that it is E.W.P., but it sure looks like it. |
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Here are many examples of such massage tables. I am afraid that this little thing does not have the capacity nor features to serve as such a table.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Ayur...w=1377&bih=787 |
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Note that two strutts have been attached roughly...and 4 small legs...These are not original so the board was a lot less "tall" and simply rested on a raised bench then the board was either hung on a nail or simply rested against a wall to drain. This is according to my two Indian chaps ( Kerala) on my team. Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 26th October 2016 at 06:18 AM. |
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Thank you for your response Ibrahiim.
I'm still very puzzled by the lack of any way in which to accommodate the excess oil. All the tables of this type that I can find images of have some provision for oil built into the projection, either a bowl, or a spout or something. I understand your comments in respect of the oil, but that does not address the problem whilst the board is in use. Perhaps you might be so kind as to ask your Indian informants how the oil problem was managed with this type of table that does not seem to have any provision for oil. Given, this little table does have a similar overall appearance to a massage table, but when we look at the details, it just doesn't seem to have the same characteristics as a massage table. I've actually tried to fit my body into a space that is 650mm (25.5") wide. I am not a big man, and although fairly heavy in the upper body, I'm not over weight. A space 650mm wide is insufficient to accommodate my shoulders and arms. Possibly this board was meant as a massage board/table for a child? I doubt that it could be used for many adults. Is it barely possible that your informants may have been misled by the overall form and overlooked the missing details? Since you are fortunate enough to have access to people with local knowledge at hand, could you possibly go just one step further and ask if they can explain the significance of the motif carved into the projection? It is this motif that aroused my interest in the first place, because I believe that this motif holds the key to identity of this artefact, rather than the overall form. Thank you for your attention. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 26th October 2016 at 08:10 AM. |
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No one has a clue as to the design. It seems to be essentially Hindu Arch style . In respect of oil I assume it can also be kept in a bowl at the side...although since a large part appears to be cut/broken off it is possible the bowl was incorporated in that part? I have a few pictures ... Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. |
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Thank you for your swift response Ibrahiim.
Yes, your pics show pretty much what I've been seeing:- where that little rounded projection appears on these tables it seems to be invariably a shallow bowl, I have yet to see one that is flat, let alone adorned with carving. I guess since one end of the panel is missing we'll never know exactly what might have been. In respect of the projection, yes, I agree stylistically Hindu, but the motif within the projection? That is what interests me. Probably a bit much to expect non-specialist people to be able to comment on it. Thank you very much for trying. |
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Yes Ibrahiim, those other boards you posted are indeed massage boards, however the board in the original post has far too many problems to serve as such. Besides the small size and oil drainage issues the pointy raised edges an the sides would be completely impractical for the comfort of the client. Whatever this is it is certainly not intended for massage work.
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This is all very interesting , but whatever it is for the table is not really 'small size' it is 1.5 m long and that is with the missing bit . |
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How wide is it?
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Interesting indeed... I say it has side dishes as required thus the fitted bowl is not needed....except we don't know how long the thing is ...perhaps a few more feet?....Indian villagers aren't that big so a total length of 5 feet would work... The width is about a metre.... wide enough for most people I would suggest....The item has added legs and two support strutts underneath. (I once saw one of these with a painting on it of a famous cleric.) It is certainly something from a village household and the massage tray or board is the closest I can get...but as a table top in its second life it is perfect. Tea anyone?
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Width 650mm. = 25.6"
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