American dagger??

roanoa · 28th September 2016, 07:16 PM

Does anyone have any ideas about this dagger? I think it may be American? Civil War?? The stamp on the forte seems to be a North American Indian. Thanks for any input. Ron

fernando · 28th September 2016, 08:04 PM

There is also a guy with a flag in the handle, right ?
Can't you post better (larger) pictures, Ron ?

roanoa · 28th September 2016, 11:58 PM

I am afraid that's all I have. The dagger is in Italy.... Not mine. But, yes, there is a guy waving a flag. I tried to enhance the picture a little. Cheers, RON

ariel · 29th September 2016, 06:41 AM

Could it be a Katipunan flag? I can see there a sun with rays.

Shakethetrees · 29th September 2016, 07:58 AM

I like it.

Can you give dimensions?

Battara · 30th September 2016, 02:05 AM

The clothes and hat do not strike me as Filipino. Though a possibility, I think it more likely that it may be from another country that also used the sun face on their flag (many did at that time).

Rick · 30th September 2016, 02:29 AM

Whatever is stamped beneath the figure might be a good indicator of origin.

ingelred · 30th September 2016, 08:06 AM

Hi,

I would say the mark on the blade is that of

James Burnand & Sons

of Sheffield, England.

According to Geoffrey Tweedale

Tweedale's Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740 - 2010

Burnand was in business from 1820 to 1920 and started making Bowie knives in the 1850s.
Their trade mark was that of an Indian above the motto Self-Defence.

Best regards, Helge

28th September 2016, 07:16 PM	#1
roanoa Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 234	American dagger?? Does anyone have any ideas about this dagger? I think it may be American? Civil War?? The stamp on the forte seems to be a North American Indian. Thanks for any input. Ron Attached Images

28th September 2016, 11:58 PM	#3
roanoa Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 234	I am afraid that's all I have. The dagger is in Italy.... Not mine. But, yes, there is a guy waving a flag. I tried to enhance the picture a little. Cheers, RON Attached Images

28th September 2016, 08:04 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	There is also a guy with a flag in the handle, right ? Can't you post better (larger) pictures, Ron ?

29th September 2016, 06:41 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Could it be a Katipunan flag? I can see there a sun with rays.

29th September 2016, 07:58 AM	#5
Shakethetrees Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 363	I like it. Can you give dimensions?

30th September 2016, 02:05 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	The clothes and hat do not strike me as Filipino. Though a possibility, I think it more likely that it may be from another country that also used the sun face on their flag (many did at that time).

30th September 2016, 02:29 AM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Whatever is stamped beneath the figure might be a good indicator of origin.

30th September 2016, 08:06 AM	#8
ingelred Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Moenchengladbach, Germany Posts: 62	Hi, I would say the mark on the blade is that of James Burnand & Sons of Sheffield, England. According to Geoffrey Tweedale Tweedale's Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740 - 2010 Burnand was in business from 1820 to 1920 and started making Bowie knives in the 1850s. Their trade mark was that of an Indian above the motto Self-Defence. Best regards, Helge