Keris Holders

Jean · 4th October 2015, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

So Jean, this is a very roundabout way to respond to your question on Ravana. If we wish to know exactly who this figure is, we need to ask the man who carved it.

Thank you Alan and I fully agree with your conclusion

Regards

asomotif · 7th October 2015, 09:24 PM

Want to share this little fellow who came to live with us 2 years ago :-)

sirek · 8th October 2015, 08:12 PM

I really like this character (unfortunately it's not mine)

Jean · 17th October 2015, 03:29 PM

As promised I attach the pics of my 3 kris holders:
. The first piece is balinese and made from hard & dense wood, it measures 63 cm high and it may depict Bayu or Bima. The figure has long thumb nails and a full jewelry set. I acquired it in Jakarta in 1995, note the similarity with the "Ravana" holder described in the thesis from Cynthia.
. The second holder is probably Balinese also and it seems to depict a Chinese gentleman. I acquired it in Surabaya in 1996.
. The third holder seems to be javanese and it may depict the Punakawan Bagong identified from his round eyes, big mouth, and short nose. Bagong is also wearing a hair bun, and there is a trace of a hair tuft on top of the head.
Your comments and pics of other kris holders will be welcome.

Regards

A. G. Maisey · 18th October 2015, 02:04 AM

Why do you think #3 is Javanese Jean?

Jean · 18th October 2015, 09:22 AM

Hello Alan,
From the style of the black sarong & belt and the carving which does not look like the balinese depictions of the punakawans, and it reminds me of some Loryo Blonyo statues from Central Java. Note the slim support also, contrary to the balinese kris holders.
I bought it from a Dutch collector so I have no proven provenance and I am open to another opinion!
Regards

A. G. Maisey · 18th October 2015, 12:11 PM

Jean, I've never seen a figural keris holder used in Jawa, and the only figural ones from Jawa that I have seen were quite large and in the form of people in Javanese dress --- like that one in post #12.

It is not impossible that this one of yours might be Jawa, but I must ask myself why it is that in over 40 years of doing the rounds in Jawa I've never seen a Jawa figural keris holder that had actually been made for sale in the open market.

7th October 2015, 09:24 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	Want to share this little fellow who came to live with us 2 years ago :-) Attached Images

17th October 2015, 03:29 PM	#4
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	As promised I attach the pics of my 3 kris holders: . The first piece is balinese and made from hard & dense wood, it measures 63 cm high and it may depict Bayu or Bima. The figure has long thumb nails and a full jewelry set. I acquired it in Jakarta in 1995, note the similarity with the "Ravana" holder described in the thesis from Cynthia. . The second holder is probably Balinese also and it seems to depict a Chinese gentleman. I acquired it in Surabaya in 1996. . The third holder seems to be javanese and it may depict the Punakawan Bagong identified from his round eyes, big mouth, and short nose. Bagong is also wearing a hair bun, and there is a trace of a hair tuft on top of the head. Your comments and pics of other kris holders will be welcome. Regards Attached Images

8th October 2015, 08:12 PM	#3
sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 169	I really like this character (unfortunately it's not mine) Attached Images Last edited by sirek; 8th October 2015 at 09:13 PM.

18th October 2015, 02:04 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,857	Why do you think #3 is Javanese Jean?

18th October 2015, 09:22 AM	#6
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Alan, From the style of the black sarong & belt and the carving which does not look like the balinese depictions of the punakawans, and it reminds me of some Loryo Blonyo statues from Central Java. Note the slim support also, contrary to the balinese kris holders. I bought it from a Dutch collector so I have no proven provenance and I am open to another opinion! Regards

18th October 2015, 12:11 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,857	Jean, I've never seen a figural keris holder used in Jawa, and the only figural ones from Jawa that I have seen were quite large and in the form of people in Javanese dress --- like that one in post #12. It is not impossible that this one of yours might be Jawa, but I must ask myself why it is that in over 40 years of doing the rounds in Jawa I've never seen a Jawa figural keris holder that had actually been made for sale in the open market.