Bagobo sword for comment

[Sajen]

A rather crazy story! Yesterday I get the information that there is a parcel at my local customs from the States for pickup. I was very confused since I don't remembered that I have bought something, you have to know that I only get the information from which State outside of the EU this parcel coming but not which sender has shipped it. So I phone them in the morning to ask which sender is written on the parcel. It is Auctions Imperial! I really forget that I have given some small bids to some items and never have get the information that I have won something by the last auction. And frankly said I have overlooked the payment from my VISA card.

Here is what I have won: https://www.auctionflex.com/showlot....526225&lang=en Winning bid was $100.

It is not the best Bagobo sword I've seen but still nice and complete IMO. What you think how old this sword could be? All other comments are also very welcome.

Here the pictures from the auction.

[Battara]

Congratulations Detlef! I saw that at the auction. I would place this around the 1930s.

Unusual not to have a grip of bronze/brass..........

[CharlesS]

If I had seen this and not had the forum to refer to I would have thought this was T'boli. What characteristics make it Bagobo?

Thanks in advance.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

Congratulations Detlef! I saw that at the auction. I would place this around the 1930s.

Unusual not to have a grip of bronze/brass..........

Hello Jose,
thank you and good guess, now, when I have it in hand I would agree with your age guess. And also agree that it's unusual that it don't have a brass ferrule.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by CharlesS

If I had seen this and not had the forum to refer to I would have thought this was T'boli. What characteristics make it Bagobo?

Thanks in advance.

Hello Charles,
the belly shape of the blade, the wooden handle and the scabbard style show that it is a Bagobo sword.

Here some typical examples:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=bagobo+sword, post #3
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=bagobo+sword, post #7 and #26

Here has Zel once explained the differences: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=bagobo+sword

Here are shown both, T'boli and Bagobo swords: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=T%23boli

A typical T'boli sword: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=T%23boli

And another one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=T%23boli

Hope this helps and don't add more confusion.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Here some few close-ups and some pictures together with my other Lumad swords, a Bagobo "kris" and a T'boli sword.

[Robert]

Hello Detlef, And another very nice sword added to your collection. Would the chains have originally ended with small bells, triangular pieces of brass or other decorative objects as I have seen on other Bagobo swords, or were chains just by themselves used as well? Its still having the original scabbard (and in such nice condition) really helps make this a great catch. My congratulations.

Best,
Robert

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Robert

Hello Detlef, And another very nice sword added to your collection. Would the chains have originally ended with small bells, triangular pieces of brass or other decorative objects as I have seen on other Bagobo swords, or were chains just by themselves used as well? Its still having the original scabbard (and in such nice condition) really helps make this a great catch. My congratulations.

Best,
Robert

Hello Robert,
thank you for your kind words. When I look to the shown Bogabo swords in the first two links in post #5 I think that chains without bells or other adornments has been quite common.

Regards,
Detlef

[Battara]

I concur with Detlef.

Nice Lumad sampling.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

I concur with Detlef.

Nice Lumad sampling.

Thank you Jose!

Regards,
Detlef