japanese pipes?

MrLyon101 · 15th October 2014, 08:42 AM

After my grandfather passed I inherited these pipes. Now my gpa never smoked and they do not looked used. Am I right are these tobacco pipes or "other" pipes. I also have not been able to find another ring pipe like the small one here. Any info on what these are would help me alot. Thank you.

fernando · 15th October 2014, 09:55 AM

And ... what about the pictures ?

kronckew · 15th October 2014, 11:04 AM

da debble made me do it

MrLyon101 · 15th October 2014, 04:05 PM

Well guess the file size is to large to upload. I will see if I can compress them some. Sorry!

Andrew · 15th October 2014, 05:32 PM

Likely kiseru. Used for smoking kizami (a type of tobacco).

I believe another member here collects these...

David · 15th October 2014, 05:35 PM

I have on almost identical to #106 Andrew.

David · 15th October 2014, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

da debble made me do it

Hey Wayne, that is NOT a pipe…

Rick · 15th October 2014, 06:05 PM

My nicest one ...

fernando · 15th October 2014, 07:10 PM

Does mine qualify ?

.

Rick · 15th October 2014, 07:25 PM

A most unusual shape !

Andrew · 15th October 2014, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

My nicest one ...

Is that gold, Rick? Very nice!

Rick · 15th October 2014, 10:44 PM

Brass with copper inlay, Andrew, carved deeply right around the pipe .

I'll have to try to get a better shot or two of it .
Likely made by some former sword fitting maker .

I'd love to know more about the symbolism of the scene .

As I understand it some kiseru were weapons grade .

MrLyon101 · 16th October 2014, 10:47 PM

Ok took me a bit to change the format but i hope they post now

kahnjar1 · 17th October 2014, 06:41 AM

I have had this one for a while. Definite signs of use as smell of tobacco is quite strong. Assuming it is Chinese???as the decoration is of dragons though I suppose it could be Japanese.
Any help here gentlemen?

blue lander · 19th October 2014, 04:40 PM

A Mongolian pipe and tobacco pouch.

The shank is wood, the stem is some sort of glass or ceramic. The ends of the wooden shank where they mate with the bowl and stem are wrapped in string to make an air tight connection. The string apparently has to be replaced every once in awhile.

The pipe is usually carried in the tobacco pouch itself with the stem sticking out of the top. I think the pouch itself was carried in the boot leg. Traditionally when you visited somebody's house you'd use your host's pipe and he'd use yours. You'd use your own tobacco though. I don't know what form the tobacco was in, it must be cut more finely than western tobacco or perhaps powdered.

Timo Nieminen · 19th October 2014, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

I have had this one for a while. Definite signs of use as smell of tobacco is quite strong. Assuming it is Chinese???as the decoration is of dragons though I suppose it could be Japanese.
Any help here gentlemen?

Haven't seen an original of these before, but plenty of replica Chinese pipes in this style, so I'd call it Chinese. I don't know if anybody else in East Asia used water pipes (I haven't seen Korean or Japanese water pipes), but the Chinese definitely did.

15th October 2014, 11:04 AM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	da debble made me do it Attached Images

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Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Likely kiseru. Used for smoking kizami (a type of tobacco). I believe another member here collects these... Attached Images

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,292	My nicest one ... Attached Images

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fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Looking at #108 Does mine qualify ? . Attached Images

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MrLyon101 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 17	ok finally got them Ok took me a bit to change the format but i hope they post now Attached Images

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MrLyon101 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 17	japanese pipes? After my grandfather passed I inherited these pipes. Now my gpa never smoked and they do not looked used. Am I right are these tobacco pipes or "other" pipes. I also have not been able to find another ring pipe like the small one here. Any info on what these are would help me alot. Thank you.

15th October 2014, 09:55 AM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	And ... what about the pictures ?

15th October 2014, 04:05 PM	#4
MrLyon101 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 17	Well guess the file size is to large to upload. I will see if I can compress them some. Sorry!

15th October 2014, 05:35 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,122	I have on almost identical to #106 Andrew.

15th October 2014, 07:25 PM	#10
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,292	A most unusual shape !

15th October 2014, 10:44 PM	#12
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,292	Brass with copper inlay, Andrew, carved deeply right around the pipe . I'll have to try to get a better shot or two of it . Likely made by some former sword fitting maker . I'd love to know more about the symbolism of the scene . As I understand it some kiseru were weapons grade .

17th October 2014, 06:41 AM	#14
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	I have had this one for a while. Definite signs of use as smell of tobacco is quite strong. Assuming it is Chinese???as the decoration is of dragons though I suppose it could be Japanese. Any help here gentlemen? Attached Images

19th October 2014, 04:40 PM	#15
blue lander Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 456	A Mongolian pipe and tobacco pouch. The shank is wood, the stem is some sort of glass or ceramic. The ends of the wooden shank where they mate with the bowl and stem are wrapped in string to make an air tight connection. The string apparently has to be replaced every once in awhile. The pipe is usually carried in the tobacco pouch itself with the stem sticking out of the top. I think the pouch itself was carried in the boot leg. Traditionally when you visited somebody's house you'd use your host's pipe and he'd use yours. You'd use your own tobacco though. I don't know what form the tobacco was in, it must be cut more finely than western tobacco or perhaps powdered. Attached Images Last edited by blue lander; 20th October 2014 at 04:21 PM.