dagger series nr4 THE BALLOCK

[junker]

sorry for the doubler

[cornelistromp]

Hi Junker,

thanks for the nice example, the grip seems to be a (later) restauration but all the brass parts are Original around 1450.
here's a picture of a similar excavated grip with balls with the sun, as seen on the painting the arrrest of christ.

best,
jasper

[junker]

Hi,

the grip shoud be the original but it is to much restored.
Thanks for your picture with the grip and sun.
Is it also from the netherlands ?

Dirk

[cornelistromp]

Originally Posted by junker

Hi,

the grip shoud be the original but it is to much restored.
Thanks for your picture with the grip and sun.
Is it also from the netherlands ?

Dirk

Hi Dirk,

yes found in the Netherlands, exact location is unknown to me.

The reason I think the grip is redone is because all ballock daggers have a grip made ​​outof one piece of wood.
when you see the grain at your dagger, the protrusions are glued to the handle.
further, the protrusions are not ball-shaped and the recess in the brass parry rod does not fit exactly appropriate the wooden grip between the balls. at your dagger the recess is smaller.
please compare other Ballock daggers for this.


The wood used here is also unusual for a ballock.

best,
Jasper

[Harry Marinakis]

Please, more information about the blade shape shown with the first 3 daggers shown. Thank you.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

The article at http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_spot_bd.html is well worth viewing...

Meanwhile three pictures illustrating medieval art which includes bollock or ballack daggers...or variants.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

and I thought to include a few more...The first picture shows a set of differing styles for comparison...Of special interest is the fragmentary set of Bollock daggers from the Mary Rose, and the amazing stone relief showing the knight with his hand on dagger.

[RobertGuy]

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[fernando]

Originally Posted by RobertGuy

I'm sorry I don't understand this statement. Are you claiming ownership of all photos posted here whoever posts them unless they specifically claim copyright?

Michael is not with us any longer, to answer your question, Robert; he has passed away last July. Just don't let that statement worry you.

[cornelistromp]

for few other types please see;

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=dagger+series

and

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=gryphon

and

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=dagger+river

and

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=dagger+series


and


http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=dagger+series

and

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19167


best,
jasper

[Lee]

Originally Posted by RobertGuy

I'm sorry I don't understand this statement. Are you claiming ownership of all photos posted here whoever posts them unless they specifically claim copyright?

The site policy is stated at the bottom of every forum page: "Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here."

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Matchlock came under intense pressures owing to a disastrous sequence of events of failing health leading to his unfortunate and early demise and the content of some of his posts during this tragic downward spiral likely reflect pharmaceutical side effects.

[cornelistromp]

two ground finds from the Netherlands of this type