&& HELP && UNKNOWN DAGGER W/ UNUSUAL MARKINGS W/ ANTLER HANDLE ANTIQUITY

tolemac · 29th April 2013, 12:55 AM

Hello all~ I recently acquired a unique I guess would be called a dagger. I was told by AN expert Heres what he said..

I can tell you with complete confidence that I do not know what it is, or where it is from. Nor do I recognize the decorations, which appear to have been chased (engraved with a tool that is struck).

I can also tell you that the deterioration due to age and possible burial appears to be authentic, unlike the chemically induced aging I see almost every day on fakes.

The handle appears to be a stag crown (base of an antler), but I can't tell you what species of cervid (deer family) it is from.

So, now im here to see if there is anyone else that can help me find out more@@ if you have any thoughts please let me know. Thank you

Robert · 29th April 2013, 03:21 AM

Hello Tolemac, and welcome to the forum. Please post pictures of the item that you are asking for identification help with. If you are uncertain of how to do this there is a sticky at the top of the main page that will explain how it is done. Looking forward to seeing what you have.

Best,
Robert

tolemac · 29th April 2013, 05:49 PM

Sorry, i thought i did... but my photos were too large. It has been fixed.. Thank you

VANDOO · 30th April 2013, 03:58 AM

WELCOME TO THE FORUM

THE HANDLE APPEARS TO BE HORN WHICH HAS BEEN CHEWED UP BY BEETLE LARVA. THE BLADE AND DESIGNS ON IT MAKE ME THINK NORTH AFRICA IS A LIKELY ORIGIN. PERHAPS SOMEONE WITH MORE KNOWLEGE IN THE AREA CAN PIN IT DOWN FOR YOU.

kai · 30th April 2013, 08:25 AM

Hello, welcome to the forum!

I'm with Barry here. The struck motifs look a bit hurried and I would be surprised if this piece were older than 20th century despite the relic condition of the hilt. I'm sure others will chime in soon!

Regards,
Kai

tolemac · 30th April 2013, 09:28 PM

Hi, thanks guys for your thoughts. Its been a real puzzle but exciting to see what others think. So, you agree its from the 20th century? I thought i was much older. But, like i say i have no idea. Keep the thoughts coming. I wish i had more info. Africa? i would never had guess that. Thanks again!!!

29th April 2013, 12:55 AM	#1
tolemac Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 3	&& HELP && PHOTOS ADDED UNKNOWN DAGGER W/ UNUSUAL MARKINGS W/ ANTLER HANDLE ANTIQUITY Hello all~ I recently acquired a unique I guess would be called a dagger. I was told by AN expert Heres what he said.. I can tell you with complete confidence that I do not know what it is, or where it is from. Nor do I recognize the decorations, which appear to have been chased (engraved with a tool that is struck). I can also tell you that the deterioration due to age and possible burial appears to be authentic, unlike the chemically induced aging I see almost every day on fakes. The handle appears to be a stag crown (base of an antler), but I can't tell you what species of cervid (deer family) it is from. So, now im here to see if there is anyone else that can help me find out more@@ if you have any thoughts please let me know. Thank you Attached Images Last edited by tolemac; 29th April 2013 at 05:50 PM. Reason: Ad Photos

29th April 2013, 05:49 PM	#3
tolemac Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 3	Opps Sorry, i thought i did... but my photos were too large. It has been fixed.. Thank you

30th April 2013, 09:28 PM	#6
tolemac Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 3	Thanks Hi, thanks guys for your thoughts. Its been a real puzzle but exciting to see what others think. So, you agree its from the 20th century? I thought i was much older. But, like i say i have no idea. Keep the thoughts coming. I wish i had more info. Africa? i would never had guess that. Thanks again!!!

29th April 2013, 03:21 AM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Tolemac, and welcome to the forum. Please post pictures of the item that you are asking for identification help with. If you are uncertain of how to do this there is a sticky at the top of the main page that will explain how it is done. Looking forward to seeing what you have. Best, Robert

30th April 2013, 03:58 AM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	WELCOME TO THE FORUM THE HANDLE APPEARS TO BE HORN WHICH HAS BEEN CHEWED UP BY BEETLE LARVA. THE BLADE AND DESIGNS ON IT MAKE ME THINK NORTH AFRICA IS A LIKELY ORIGIN. PERHAPS SOMEONE WITH MORE KNOWLEGE IN THE AREA CAN PIN IT DOWN FOR YOU.

30th April 2013, 08:25 AM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Hello, welcome to the forum! I'm with Barry here. The struck motifs look a bit hurried and I would be surprised if this piece were older than 20th century despite the relic condition of the hilt. I'm sure others will chime in soon! Regards, Kai