GUNONG on EBAY

David · 19th January 2013, 11:36 PM

Yes, i think there is no arguing that there is nice craftsmanship at work here which is the opposite of most modern made Moro weapons entering the market today. Goes to show that these skills have not been lost.

Spunjer · 20th January 2013, 12:27 AM

yeah, recent. it's an industry in Lanao del sur, specifically Tugaya. lots of these can be found in Davao and Ermita, the new antique district in Manila. here are some pics of locals in action:

http://www.pbase.com/timonera/tugaya&page=all

David · 20th January 2013, 12:33 AM

Thanks for that link Ron. It's exactly what i was looking for.

Spunjer · 20th January 2013, 01:03 AM

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Battara · 20th January 2013, 02:46 AM

Great pictures. Also explains the ivory hilts on these new pieces.

No offense, but I do find it disturbing that they have acquired illegal ivory from recently killed elephants..........

Gavin Nugent · 20th January 2013, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

No offense, but I do find it disturbing that they have acquired illegal ivory from recently killed elephants..........

Don't dispair so easily, the ivory could have come from trimming of tusks and other avenues.

David · 21st January 2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

Don't dispair so easily, the ivory could have come from trimming of tusks and other avenues.

Gav, at least one of the images in the gallery Ron linked shows an ivory tusk in the foreground, so not trimmings.
Pretty sure the gunong that i originally posted is indeed bone, not ivory, but photos are difficult to figure with that ID at times, especially after the material has been processed and stained to give an antique effect.

Nathaniel · 23rd January 2013, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Great pictures. Also explains the ivory hilts on these new pieces.

No offense, but I do find it disturbing that they have acquired illegal ivory from recently killed elephants..........

Speaking of which that just reminded me that in this last October 2012 there was a good article written up in National Geographic called Blood Ivory, which detailed that current status of the illegal ivory trade. China, Thailand and the Philippines where highlighted as major consumers of ivory. Here is the article. If you get a chance take a look at the actual magazine as there are some more graphs and photos.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...y/christy-text

Nathaniel · 23rd January 2013, 06:47 AM

And a similar article was published in March 2012 in the National Geographic called Rhino Wars

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...wars/gwin-text

19th January 2013, 11:36 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	Yes, i think there is no arguing that there is nice craftsmanship at work here which is the opposite of most modern made Moro weapons entering the market today. Goes to show that these skills have not been lost.

20th January 2013, 12:27 AM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	yeah, recent. it's an industry in Lanao del sur, specifically Tugaya. lots of these can be found in Davao and Ermita, the new antique district in Manila. here are some pics of locals in action: http://www.pbase.com/timonera/tugaya&page=all

20th January 2013, 12:33 AM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	Thanks for that link Ron. It's exactly what i was looking for.

20th January 2013, 01:03 AM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	.

20th January 2013, 02:46 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Great pictures. Also explains the ivory hilts on these new pieces. No offense, but I do find it disturbing that they have acquired illegal ivory from recently killed elephants..........

23rd January 2013, 06:47 AM	#9
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	And a similar article was published in March 2012 in the National Geographic called Rhino Wars http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...wars/gwin-text