Scottish Late Medieval 'Claidheamh - mor' Swords

fernando · 26th October 2011, 08:10 PM

Sorry if i divert a little, Michl, but i know you don’t dislike these historical things

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Do i find some similitary between the marks already posted here and those used by the fishermen of my home town?
… Said to have probably been influenced by the local Viking colonization (IX-X) century, among other less solid theories, these marks represented the "coat of arms" of each family, used to mark all their property and also their presence in places of religious cult, in the interior and along the coast, during their pilgrimages.
It has been established by local ethnologists that this system of house marks was also used in Scandinavia ( bomärken) and correspondence can be found with Nordic runas.

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Matchlock · 27th October 2011, 06:25 PM

Brilliant documentation, 'Nando,

Thank you so much for taking us back to the roots of runes. As this thread was on Sottish late medieval swords, I wanted to concentate on contemporary comparable sources.

Going back to the roots would of course mean starting at the earliest stone scratchings of the Stone Age, the Sumerian cuneiform etc.

In this large historic retrospective however you of course deserve special crediting for pointing out the famous - tough widely neglected - fishermen's runes of your home town!

Best,
Michl

Matchlock · 23rd July 2012, 03:21 PM

The National Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh preserves a 14th c. Claymore sword (inv.no. H.LA 2, on top) and another of early-16th c. date (H.LA 105, better images than in post # 11 attached below).
And a cast of a mid-16th c. graveslab in the same museum.

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26th October 2011, 08:10 PM	#1
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Sorry if i divert a little, Michl, but i know you don’t dislike these historical things . Do i find some similitary between the marks already posted here and those used by the fishermen of my home town? … Said to have probably been influenced by the local Viking colonization (IX-X) century, among other less solid theories, these marks represented the "coat of arms" of each family, used to mark all their property and also their presence in places of religious cult, in the interior and along the coast, during their pilgrimages. It has been established by local ethnologists that this system of house marks was also used in Scandinavia ( bomärken) and correspondence can be found with Nordic runas. . Attached Images

23rd July 2012, 03:21 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The National Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh preserves a 14th c. Claymore sword (inv.no. H.LA 2, on top) and another of early-16th c. date (H.LA 105, better images than in post # 11 attached below). And a cast of a mid-16th c. graveslab in the same museum. m Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 23rd July 2012 at 04:24 PM.

27th October 2011, 06:25 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Brilliant documentation, 'Nando, Thank you so much for taking us back to the roots of runes. As this thread was on Sottish late medieval swords, I wanted to concentate on contemporary comparable sources. Going back to the roots would of course mean starting at the earliest stone scratchings of the Stone Age, the Sumerian cuneiform etc. In this large historic retrospective however you of course deserve special crediting for pointing out the famous - tough widely neglected - fishermen's runes of your home town! Best, Michl