Sundang Bisaya

Dimasalang · 26th October 2011, 07:10 PM

Wow thats awesome!

Bicol is an interesting region. It is considered a part of the Luzon region(aka Region V), considering the main part of Bicol is still land locked to Luzon...but the Bicol island province of Masbate is considered a part of the Visayan region. The main part of Bicol is not. They are in a way half and half. The main dialect spoken is Bicol, but in the North they can speak Tagalog(Camarines Norte and Camarines Sur), and in the south they can speak Cebuano/Visayan...as well as a mix dialect of Visayan and Bikol which they call "Bisakol". The Bikolanos are considered their own ethnic group, but even from the different and mixed dialects, you can see the impact the Tagalogs and Visayans have to Bicol. And more likely their culture as well. I've noticed the blades there seem to look more closely related to the Visayan region, but I haven't seen any Bicol blades that have a chiseled edge.
Just my observation.

nacho · 27th October 2011, 01:59 AM

The similarity in Bicol and Panay swords have been subject of our discussions here in the Philippines. No conclusions reached. But some interesting info:

1) Bicol and Panay dialects have strong similarities;
2) Legend says that 10 Bornean datus landed in Panay and bought the island from the natives for a golden salakot (hat). Most of the datus settled in Panay, but a few moved on to Bicol and settled there.

DaveS · 27th October 2011, 02:27 AM

Albert: If you can get a piece of horn the same color as the handle, try
grinding it to get enough dust to mix with epoxy to fill the crack.
Sometimes the color match can work out really well......Dave

kino · 27th October 2011, 05:30 AM

Dimasalang-thanks for the geography lesson.

Dave- It's good to hear from you. Trouble is finding horn that matches. Thanks for the tip. Say hello to your better half for me.

26th October 2011, 07:10 PM	#1
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	Wow thats awesome! Bicol is an interesting region. It is considered a part of the Luzon region(aka Region V), considering the main part of Bicol is still land locked to Luzon...but the Bicol island province of Masbate is considered a part of the Visayan region. The main part of Bicol is not. They are in a way half and half. The main dialect spoken is Bicol, but in the North they can speak Tagalog(Camarines Norte and Camarines Sur), and in the south they can speak Cebuano/Visayan...as well as a mix dialect of Visayan and Bikol which they call "Bisakol". The Bikolanos are considered their own ethnic group, but even from the different and mixed dialects, you can see the impact the Tagalogs and Visayans have to Bicol. And more likely their culture as well. I've noticed the blades there seem to look more closely related to the Visayan region, but I haven't seen any Bicol blades that have a chiseled edge. Just my observation.

27th October 2011, 01:59 AM	#2
nacho Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Makati Posts: 69	The similarity in Bicol and Panay swords have been subject of our discussions here in the Philippines. No conclusions reached. But some interesting info: 1) Bicol and Panay dialects have strong similarities; 2) Legend says that 10 Bornean datus landed in Panay and bought the island from the natives for a golden salakot (hat). Most of the datus settled in Panay, but a few moved on to Bicol and settled there.

27th October 2011, 02:27 AM	#3
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Albert: If you can get a piece of horn the same color as the handle, try grinding it to get enough dust to mix with epoxy to fill the crack. Sometimes the color match can work out really well......Dave

27th October 2011, 05:30 AM	#4
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 999	Dimasalang-thanks for the geography lesson. Dave- It's good to hear from you. Trouble is finding horn that matches. Thanks for the tip. Say hello to your better half for me.