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In Malay world lizard is a symbol of cautiousness/alertness. And that symbol doesn't has any talismanic value at all but a mere reminder to the owner of the item to always be cautious/alert. Below are samples of diagram with talismanic value: Hope my two cents helps! mohd |
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18th July 2011, 03:35 PM | #2 |
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Very helpful Mohd thank you.
IN the Philippine world, stylized animals and "x"s are talismanic symbols. The "lizard" is in fact a stylized crocodile, a power symbol. |
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Battara thank you for your contribution of sharing those wonderfull krisses.
I could imagine that the crocodile figure is for talismanic, and the defoliate decoration on the other kris more as decoration...Which I'm glad you also shared in this thread. Unfortunately I don't have the answer of what will be only used as decoration, and what will be used as talismanic purposes. But somewhere in the back of my head I remember I've read something in an old book (which I can't recall in my mind), that motifs, filled with silver or gold inlay, means to be there to strengthen the owner and protect him against evil or harm. I'm sure there must be more knowledge about this here of forumites and I hope this thread will be interesting which eventually give us a good sight on what to see as decoration and what to see as talismanic purposes. It seems that I'm not the only one having these questions, considering the posts of mohd and kino.. And this was exactly what I wanted to cause by this thread. Please share more images and knowledge about this! I'm getting real curious now to learn more..... Maurice |
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For Moro pieces, Cato's Moro Swords is one source that is specifically tailored for Moro swords and discusses for example the "x" as a talismanic mark (p.92 for starters)...........
Other tribes that are not mentioned in Cato can be found with their talismanic symbols in Philippine textile works, like Textiles of the Southern Philippines ............. Last edited by Battara; 18th July 2011 at 06:55 PM. |
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Nice idea Maurice for a good reference thread.
I hope all will contribute so we have as many examples as possible for future references. Maybe we first should allow all forumites to post and then in another thread discuss which motifs that might be talismanic and why? Here are variations of motifs that I suspect might be talismanic on my kris. Michael |
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You have posted some fine examples i think. Again i would suggest that some are strong candidates for talismanic signs while others look to be just decoration to me. Beautiful pieces all though.... |
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