My new old Bikol Minasbad Sword

Dimasalang · 6th June 2011, 09:23 PM

Been wanting one of these for awhile. Just won this the other day. Was anyone else watching or bidding? haha

I'll post more images when I get it.

Battara · 6th June 2011, 09:28 PM

Nice one. Yes I thought about it, but decided to pass. Looking forward to the close ups - congrats! Glad you got it!

ThePepperSkull · 6th June 2011, 10:20 PM

Did not bid on it but was watching with interest just to see how much it would go for. Let us know how it is once you recieve it! Love the hilt.

Spunjer · 7th June 2011, 12:43 AM

nice one bro! i was gonna go for it as well, but i ended up winning the oakley juliets i was bidding on at the same time instead, lol. it was meant for you, brah!!!

Dimasalang · 7th June 2011, 05:41 AM

Thanks guys! Glad none of you bid! HAHA

kino · 7th June 2011, 06:05 AM

Good catch. Congrats.
I sent you an email.

Robert · 7th June 2011, 06:21 PM

I too was watching this but had other obligations that had to be taken care of first. Great looking sword and I'm very happy that you won it. Can't wait for more pictures and details. A very nice score.

Robert

laEspadaAncha · 7th June 2011, 07:30 PM

Beautiful piece, Dimasalang...

Maybe bring it for an up-close inspection if we ever meet up here in SD?

Dimasalang · 7th June 2011, 07:42 PM

Thanks Kino! I sent you an email back.

Robert, I was worried I would be contending with you on this one. As you seem to be the one snatching everything up now-a-days. haha

laEspadaAncha, the Fil-Am Festival here in San Diego is in a few months. And the representative heading the main Filipino cultural booth have asked me if they can borrow some weapons(as if I had a ton)...let me know if you'd like to help display something. I still have your PM and your email. I'll send you info within the next few weeks. Also the Pacific Islander Festival is in Sept...I think that would be an awesome place for a display as well.

laEspadaAncha · 7th June 2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimasalang

laEspadaAncha, the Fil-Am Festival here in San Diego is in a few months. And the representative heading the main Filipino cultural booth have asked me if they can borrow some weapons(as if I had a ton)...let me know if you'd like to help display something. I still have your PM and your email. I'll send you info within the next few weeks. Also the Pacific Islander Festival is in Sept...I think that would be an awesome place for a display as well.

Hey Dimasalang,

I'd be down... I have a few pieces I think you'd be interested in including.

Hit me up with an email, as my PM box is kind of full (which I guess is like being "kind of" pregnant?

)

I have a few good pieces that would make for a nice contribution at the Pacific Islander festival as well.

Of course, a meet-and-greet over some cerveza in Old Town is in order before we can discuss possible arrangements, don't you think?

Dimasalang · 8th June 2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

Hey Dimasalang,

I'd be down... I have a few pieces I think you'd be interested in including.

Hit me up with an email, as my PM box is kind of full (which I guess is like being "kind of" pregnant?

)

I have a few good pieces that would make for a nice contribution at the Pacific Islander festival as well.

Of course, a meet-and-greet over some cerveza in Old Town is in order before we can discuss possible arrangements, don't you think?

Sounds good! I wonder if we can bring our swords in to the bar as well.

I'll be in touch.

migueldiaz · 8th June 2011, 02:12 AM

dimasalang, nice one! and methinks i've been using all along the wrong key words in ebay

and i love the sunny eyes of the guy. congrats.

laEspadaAncha · 8th June 2011, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimasalang

Sounds good! I wonder if we can bring our swords in to the bar as well.

I'll be in touch.

Might get us a free round, though it kind of puts an odd - and possibly arrestable - slant on "Happy Hour..."

Dimasalang · 24th June 2011, 11:45 AM

Got the sword in last week.
Finally took some pics. Sorry for the poor camera skills.

ariel · 24th June 2011, 04:17 PM

What is the definition of Minasbad? Another thread shows a variant of Parang Nabur under the same name.

Battara · 24th June 2011, 09:28 PM

Nice piece. Better to have the brass detail and the engraving on the blade. Bikolano, eh? Now I know thanks.

Robert · 24th June 2011, 09:28 PM

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Robert, I was worried I would be contending with you on this one. As you seem to be the one snatching everything up now-a-days. haha

Actually I'm kind of glad that I had other obligations when this came to auction, otherwise the bidding could have been run up needlessly. The new pictures show just how beautiful this sword is. Now, I am extremely jealous and will have to find one with this style of blade for my own collection (again, here is where the forum needs a jealousy icon). Do you by any chance have an idea of the age of this sword as I have no idea at all of how to date them? Again my congratulations on this great addition to your collection.

Robert

tom hyle · 25th June 2011, 02:16 AM

Interesting sword. The bathead pommel is more usually seen with a parang nabur blade; here with a matulis/talibon style.
It's interesting too how the flat kind of shot-glass shaped saber butt was adapted part-and-parcel with the full-length tang in the swords of this region.

Dimasalang · 25th June 2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ariel

What is the definition of Minasbad? Another thread shows a variant of Parang Nabur under the same name.

Im not positive on the definition of Minasbad or how it is filed under Parang Nabur. Lorenz would be able to answer that question.

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Originally Posted by Battara

Nice piece. Better to have the brass detail and the engraving on the blade. Bikolano, eh? Now I know thanks.

Yes. Now that it is in my hands and seeing the details first hand, I am very happy with this buy. See -->

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Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Actually I'm kind of glad that I had other obligations when this came to auction, otherwise the bidding could have been run up needlessly. The new pictures show just how beautiful this sword is. Now, I am extremely jealous and will have to find one with this style of blade for my own collection (again, here is where the forum needs a jealousy icon). Do you by any chance have an idea of the age of this sword as I have no idea at all of how to date them? Again my congratulations on this great addition to your collection.

Robert

Thanks again Robert for not bidding. haha I thought it went high enough already. hehe I'm not positive on the age of this one, but I am guessing early 1900s?

Maybe others will input.
Anyone know how I can remove that surface rust with out removing any patina?

Spunjer · 25th June 2011, 05:13 PM

dam bro, that's a nice one! they're hard enough to come by, and to have a plated one like this is even rarer. congrats! is the handle kamagong?

Sajen · 25th June 2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimasalang

Anyone know how I can remove that surface rust with out removing any patina?

It look on the pictures like it is only some surface rust so I would try to rub it away with WD 40.

BTW, very nice acquisition!

Regards,

Detlef

Robert · 25th June 2011, 07:09 PM

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Anyone know how I can remove that surface rust with out removing any patina?

On the steel parts I use Mothers Mag & Aluminium Polish and 0000 steel wool and just do a little at a time so you don't remove anything other than rust. I then wipe it down good and follow that up with Ren Wax.

Robert

Dimasalang · 26th June 2011, 09:28 PM

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Ill give the WD40 method a shot first.

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

dam bro, that's a nice one! they're hard enough to come by, and to have a plated one like this is even rarer. congrats! is the handle kamagong?

Tell me about it. Which is why I felt I had to have this one. And the entire set seems to be in good shape with none of the plates or parts missing. The handle looks to be carabao horn.

Battara · 27th June 2011, 03:20 AM

Your pictures are better - very nice.

xasterix · 30th August 2023, 06:29 PM

Hullo, necro-ing this thread because I got a piece which I believe belongs in the same era as the original post... the blade profile of mine is called 'winastari,' it's 17in with a subtle clip-point in the last 1/4th of the spine. I'm not yet sure what [animal, deity] the figural represents.

Just wondering if anyone has arrived at a date or era for this dress style of Bicol blades. TIA!

JeffS · 31st August 2023, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xasterix

Hullo, necro-ing this thread because I got a piece which I believe belongs in the same era as the original post... the blade profile of mine is called 'winastari,' it's 17in with a subtle clip-point in the last 1/4th of the spine. I'm not yet sure what [animal, deity] the figural represents.

Just wondering if anyone has arrived at a date or era for this dress style of Bicol blades. TIA!

No info, but have to say that is a distinctive style! Very cool - thank you for sharing.

Sajen · 31st August 2023, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xasterix

Hullo, necro-ing this thread because I got a piece which I believe belongs in the same era as the original post... the blade profile of mine is called 'winastari,' it's 17in with a subtle clip-point in the last 1/4th of the spine. I'm not yet sure what [animal, deity] the figural represents.

Just wondering if anyone has arrived at a date or era for this dress style of Bicol blades. TIA!

Hello Ray,

Nice sword, congrats! Is it still a Minasbad with this blade style? I would associate this handle style with la ater date, WWII?? But I'm not sure.

Regards,
Detlef

xasterix · 31st August 2023, 01:55 PM

Thanks, Jeff and Detlef!

I'm positing this as pre-WW2 because of the abundance of brass effects- as I understand, WW2 onwards would have integrated aluminum or other substitute metals. Although to be honest, I'm not so sure too- difficult to find Bicol swords with indicated area and date of production.

6th June 2011, 09:23 PM	#1
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	My new old Bikol Minasbad Sword Been wanting one of these for awhile. Just won this the other day. Was anyone else watching or bidding? haha I'll post more images when I get it. Attached Images

24th June 2011, 11:45 AM	#14
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	Got the sword in last week. Finally took some pics. Sorry for the poor camera skills. Attached Images

30th August 2023, 06:29 PM	#25
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 664	Necro Hullo, necro-ing this thread because I got a piece which I believe belongs in the same era as the original post... the blade profile of mine is called 'winastari,' it's 17in with a subtle clip-point in the last 1/4th of the spine. I'm not yet sure what [animal, deity] the figural represents. Just wondering if anyone has arrived at a date or era for this dress style of Bicol blades. TIA! Attached Images

6th June 2011, 09:28 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,229	Nice one. Yes I thought about it, but decided to pass. Looking forward to the close ups - congrats! Glad you got it!

6th June 2011, 10:20 PM	#3
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	Did not bid on it but was watching with interest just to see how much it would go for. Let us know how it is once you recieve it! Love the hilt.

7th June 2011, 12:43 AM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	nice one bro! i was gonna go for it as well, but i ended up winning the oakley juliets i was bidding on at the same time instead, lol. it was meant for you, brah!!!

7th June 2011, 05:41 AM	#5
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	Thanks guys! Glad none of you bid! HAHA

7th June 2011, 06:05 AM	#6
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,007	Good catch. Congrats. I sent you an email.

7th June 2011, 06:21 PM	#7
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I too was watching this but had other obligations that had to be taken care of first. Great looking sword and I'm very happy that you won it. Can't wait for more pictures and details. A very nice score. Robert

7th June 2011, 07:30 PM	#8
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Beautiful piece, Dimasalang... Maybe bring it for an up-close inspection if we ever meet up here in SD?

7th June 2011, 07:42 PM	#9
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	Thanks Kino! I sent you an email back. Robert, I was worried I would be contending with you on this one. As you seem to be the one snatching everything up now-a-days. haha laEspadaAncha, the Fil-Am Festival here in San Diego is in a few months. And the representative heading the main Filipino cultural booth have asked me if they can borrow some weapons(as if I had a ton)...let me know if you'd like to help display something. I still have your PM and your email. I'll send you info within the next few weeks. Also the Pacific Islander Festival is in Sept...I think that would be an awesome place for a display as well.

8th June 2011, 02:12 AM	#12
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	dimasalang, nice one! and methinks i've been using all along the wrong key words in ebay and i love the sunny eyes of the guy. congrats.

24th June 2011, 04:17 PM	#15
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	What is the definition of Minasbad? Another thread shows a variant of Parang Nabur under the same name.

24th June 2011, 09:28 PM	#16
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,229	Nice piece. Better to have the brass detail and the engraving on the blade. Bikolano, eh? Now I know thanks.

25th June 2011, 02:16 AM	#18
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Interesting sword. The bathead pommel is more usually seen with a parang nabur blade; here with a matulis/talibon style. It's interesting too how the flat kind of shot-glass shaped saber butt was adapted part-and-parcel with the full-length tang in the swords of this region.

25th June 2011, 05:13 PM	#20
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	dam bro, that's a nice one! they're hard enough to come by, and to have a plated one like this is even rarer. congrats! is the handle kamagong?

27th June 2011, 03:20 AM	#24
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,229	Your pictures are better - very nice.

31st August 2023, 01:55 PM	#28
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 664	Thanks, Jeff and Detlef! I'm positing this as pre-WW2 because of the abundance of brass effects- as I understand, WW2 onwards would have integrated aluminum or other substitute metals. Although to be honest, I'm not so sure too- difficult to find Bicol swords with indicated area and date of production.