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A little disappointed that this thread 'died', but do believe 'lessons' have been learned. This is an educational forum, there will be differences of opinion...it is frustrating to have an object posted, questions asked ...that go unanswered. I feel that the 'poster' whom wants further information or comments ...should reply to queries, or explain why they believe certain things are fact. This is how we learn and grow....humour...a little friendly 'banter', makes education fun, but I can understand how this can be misconcieved by some. Please, lets not refrain from the occasional 'banter'.....afterall ....all work and no play made Jack a dull boy
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Hi David,
You mean “dead” as if somebody “killed” it ? No doubt Cesare found that our remarks trespassed the "friendly banter" limit and felt somehow ridicularized with the contents of some posts. Maybe a certain extent of humor is o.k. if exchanged between us, "forum veterans", but remember that newcomers may not be ready for that. On the other hand, Cornelis answered most of the questions posed by you guys; so we can’t say that the thread subject had such a sterile ending. We will certainly have Cesare coming back with new threads and more interesting material. Does the saying “Life goes on” makes any sense in here? Yours humbly ![]() |
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'Nando,
I'm pleased to hear that Cesare will continue posting ![]() All the best David |
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Hi,
I found that this open case also has been opened at the armsandarmsforum, there they found out that this particular Hat has been published in Armi e Armature Italiane, Aldo Mario Aroldi (Fig. 65). |
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Wow, Cornelis, great find! It's always amazing when another example of a questioned item turns up in a noted collection. Good show! I had followed this thread for awhile and its nice to see some closure.
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Perfect, Cornelis,
I cannot believe that I overlooked that fine sample. Once more posted here for easy comparison - nothing I guess can be brought forward against Cesare's helmet now (not disregarding the question how both breathing and seeing might have possibly worked with such a device ...) Thank you and best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 31st December 2010 at 08:55 PM. |
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the fact that this helmet is published by one of the most leading specialists of Italian armor makes the credibility of the hypothesis that this helmet is a bucket or other household item, suggested by some forum members, a lot less credible. However, experts also make mistakes but that is probably not the case here. Iam sorry and realize it's hard to abandon a hypothesis, how convincing the evidence is. kind regards, |
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In my opinion this is -- how impractical it may seem in its current condition -- clearly a helmet. My point was that the photos you posted are of the same helmet and therefore don't provide more information about date and origin that Cesare already knows. kind regards, Thilo |
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