Magnetic stand for weapons

[Luc LEFEBVRE]

I have design this magnetic stand.
Round heavy base (8mm height) , adjustable in height and rotation.
It can support a heavy weapon with 1 magnet, or a VERY heavy with 2 magnets, even sometimes with the scabbard.
Anybody else has this kind of idea ?
Luc

[Andrew]

That's great, Luc!

I wonder if small, powerful magnets, covered in suede or some other soft material, could be mounted on a wall to attach weapons to?

[Bill M]

Very nice stand, Luc.

Here is my attempt with magnest.

These Moro weapons are held in place by 1.5 inch long x 1 inch wide x 1/4 in thick neodymium magnets behind the cloth. I sawed a slot in a piece of oak board, screwed the board to the wall, inserted the magnets and then put the cloth to hide the board and additionally protect the blades.

If you use neodymium magnets, be VERY careful. Unbelievably powerful. I got these on eBay from a company called "Rattlesnake." Well named. Two magnets will attract each other violently.

Not so dangerous just holding the steel blade but they hold it very well and the cloth keeps them from scratching the blades.

[Dajak]

Hi nice idea whit the magnets


regards, ben

[wolviex]

LUC! Great Idea, I would like to have someting like that! Is is available somewhere? If you cannot mention dealer and the price here, please send me PM or email: wolviex@poczta.onet.pl
Many thanks in advance!

[Lew]

Here is where I buy the ones I use to mount on the wall.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?cat=86


Lew

[Emanuel]

Hello,

This is a fantastic device, I'll certainly give it a try. What do you do with the scabbards though? In many, if not most, they're works of art in their own right. How to reconcile both the sword ans its scabbard on a presentation armature? Bill, I see that some of the scabbards are included in the glass case of your exhibit, but what do you do with the rest of them?
Perhaps some cloth wound around the scabbard and held to the magnet with a metal piece/washer could do the trick?

Regards,
Emanuel

[katana]

Interesting that this thread came up. I have been working on the idea of making wall brackets out of clear perspex/acrylic with neodymium magnets embedded.Basically a clear plastic rod is fixed to a bracket (to fix to the wall) at the end of the rod is attached the magnet and a felt protective piece. The rod could be 4-8 " depending on the thickness. Two would be needed to mount a sword horizontally. Once the sword is 'magnetically stuck' the only visible part of the bracket would be the clear plastic. The added bonus is ....because the bracket 'base' is clear....the surface of the wall will show through ...helping to hide it.

The idea was to create the illusion the sword was 'floating' next to the wall.

[Luc LEFEBVRE]

Here some pics I have made recently with scabbards.
On the photo with knives in the scabbard, I use the magnetic stand.
Luc

Originally Posted by Manolo

Hello,

This is a fantastic device, I'll certainly give it a try. What do you do with the scabbards though? In many, if not most, they're works of art in their own right. How to reconcile both the sword ans its scabbard on a presentation armature? Bill, I see that some of the scabbards are included in the glass case of your exhibit, but what do you do with the rest of them?
Perhaps some cloth wound around the scabbard and held to the magnet with a metal piece/washer could do the trick?

Regards,
Emanuel

[katana]

Luc....they look excellent.

[Luc LEFEBVRE]

Your system with plexiglas seems to be a good idea to hang on the wall.
Just try it and show us.
Luc

[Luc LEFEBVRE]

Nice wall Bill with good light.
In fact I've hurt myself with the magnets 2 or 3 time, my fingers remember this moment...
Luc

Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

Very nice stand, Luc.

Here is my attempt with magnest.

These Moro weapons are held in place by 1.5 inch long x 1 inch wide x 1/4 in thick neodymium magnets behind the cloth. I sawed a slot in a piece of oak board, screwed the board to the wall, inserted the magnets and then put the cloth to hide the board and additionally protect the blades.

If you use neodymium magnets, be VERY careful. Unbelievably powerful. I got these on eBay from a company called "Rattlesnake." Well named. Two magnets will attract each other violently.

Not so dangerous just holding the steel blade but they hold it very well and the cloth keeps them from scratching the blades.

[Bill M]

Originally Posted by Luc LEFEBVRE

Nice wall Bill with good light.
In fact I've hurt myself with the magnets 2 or 3 time, my fingers remember this moment...
Luc

Thanks Luc,

I have had 1 inch square magnets snap together with enough force to give me blood blisters. The bigger ones can actually break bones. It is unreal how powerfully they attract each other.

A six inch diameter by two inch thick can hold up 1175 POUNDS of iron and they are much more powerful attracting another magnet. The seller says this about a 6" x 2" magnet.

"This is an EXTREMELY Powerful Magnet! The end user MUST USE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS when unpacking and using this magnet. Remove all metal objects within a 5 foot radius before unpacking. Magnets of this size and strength can pull metals objects to them when brought too close. Two magnets of this size will fly together with great force and can break bones."

I am very careful when using 1" x 1.5" magnets, but they sure hold a sword well. They will each lift about 55 pounds of steel.

[Emanuel]

If these magnets are so strong, then can they attract the blade through the wood (or whatever) of the scabbard? Furthermore, is it difficult to separate the blades from the magnets?

Luc, In the picture where the scabbard is alone on the stand, how is it held? Is there a bracket around it?

Thanks all for these examples, they're a great way to present weapons...and anything else for that matter.

Emanuel

[Bill M]

Originally Posted by Manolo

If these magnets are so strong, then can they attract the blade through the wood (or whatever) of the scabbard? Furthermore, is it difficult to separate the blades from the magnets?
Emanuel

They would easily attract the blade through the scabbard. I have over 1/4" of wood between my blades and the magnets, and a piece of thick cloth. I just like to see the blades and many Moro swords have lost their scabbards.

The magnet is difficult to remove from the sword blade if it is directly in contact.

[Spunjer]

will these magnets leave marks on the blade? how would one prevent that?

[Bill M]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

will these magnets leave marks on the blade? how would one prevent that?

I don't think that the magnets will leave marks on the blades. However I have a piece of thin wood between the blade and the magnet. The problem is that the magnets are very powerful, very slick surface and difficult to attach to the wall or backdrop.

I am going to try some epoxy to hold the magnets to a board and then just use a thick cloth to go between them and the blades. The thickness of the wood weakens the magnetic attraction and am concerned they might not hold well enough.

While the magnets are powerful, the distance between is a large factor.

I stress again that these magnets are very powerful and dangerous -- particularly to each other -- less so to steel or iron. Two magnets will bite you! I have blood blisters to prove it! They are also brittle.

[Rick]

In the interest of recycling (and being a cheapskate ) I'd like to mention that the electric toothbrush heads that we routinely discard every month or so have incredibly strong magnets inside of them.

[josh stout]

Originally Posted by Rick

In the interest of recycling (and being a cheapskate ) I'd like to mention that the electric toothbrush heads that we routinely discard every month or so have incredibly strong magnets inside of them.

Old hard drives also have rare earth magnets in them. The magnets also have the advantage of being built into their mounting brackets so they can be screwed into whatever you want to hold them. I use a hard drive magnet to clean up iron filings.
Josh

[Spunjer]

these rare earth magnets, neodymium, do they lose their magnetic hold over time? my concern is, if one uses these magnets as some sort of sword hanger on the wall and nothing else (no hooks to support), that eventually gravity takes over and well, i'll have my own version of king arthur's sword on the floor...

[Luc LEFEBVRE]

Hi Josh,
At the beginning, I used HDD magnets, they are strong enough, but fragile.
So I buy strong and thick magnets and they don't lose their magnetic power.
Luc

[fearn]

Hey Luc,

Neat idea, and a great way to magnetize a blade. Didn't we have a thread on that not very long ago?

Here's the Wikipedia article on neodymium magnets on neodymium magnets (just found googling, not saying it's correct).

Neodymium magnets lose strength when exposed to temperatures greater than 80 degrees Celsius, rather than over time. They are also fairly fragile. While they are wonderful fun to play with, but they can be a nuisance and/or a health hazard. For instance, you definitely DO NOT want to get your hand caught between two magnets that can each hold 100 kg, as they will come together with 200 kg worth of force and crush your hand between them. Nor do you want it to mess up your pacemaker, if you have one. Or your credit cards or hard drives.

Otherwise, have fun! if you've got a decent stand, I think a neodymium magnet would be a great way to hold a sword.

F

[Luc LEFEBVRE]

No problem it works really good.
And I'm still alive with my 10 fingers and a good heart !
;-)
Here a picture of a wall at home, you can see some magnetic stands.
Luc

[Tim Simmons]

Luc, the knives you show here with their scabbards are very nice to see. I simply adore the fur scabbard, they are just so perfect.

[Luc LEFEBVRE]

If you like knive with scabbard, here some.
Luc

[Emanuel]

Finally got around to trying these magnets, they work great!

[Rikkn]

Great idea !! I can mount my bayonet collection with magnets too !!

[Bill M]

I want to stress again that these magnets are dangerous. I have blood blisters from two of the smaller type snapping together and catching part of my finger! These were an inch in diameter. You will not believe how fast they can come together.

I also suggest that a magnet strong enough to hold a sword can attract the sword blade quickly and cause the blade to cut you. And without some kind of padding, cloth or thin wood, they can scratch fine, polished blades.

With a few safety precautions these work very well, but always be careful. I found out the hard way!