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Old 20th March 2016, 09:32 AM   #1
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Yesterday ended by a german auctionhouse this very unusual dagger, I have given a modest bid but until now I don't have the result of this auction. The ivory hilt is in the style of keris hilts from Sumatra but the dagger byself look Indian or Persian to my eyes.
Here the auction picture I would like to share with you since I think that this dagger is most unusual and worth to shown here. Any comments are very welcome. The dagger is 37 cm long.
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Old 20th March 2016, 09:54 AM   #2
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Can you post a bigger photo of the blade please?
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Can you post a bigger photo of the blade please?
Sorry, can't! This was the only auction picture which was provided.
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Old 20th March 2016, 11:34 AM   #4
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Sajen,

This is in Turkish Ottoman dress and absolutely stunning, a princely piece.

The ivory in a double reverse pendokok atop another bulbous ivory section sitting on a base of silver through which the blade is mounted. The blade and sheath is Ottoman as by the finial at the base and with the deep patina to the silver throughout, it has been stored away for a very long time.
I too would love to see the blade in more detail.

Clear political and religious links from the Ottoman power centre in to South East Asia. ..whether dressed in Turkey on pilgrimage or political business or re-hilted in Sumatra on political business or a sent either way as a gift, we'll probably never know.



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Sajen,

This is in Turkish Ottoman dress and absolutely stunning, a princely piece.

The ivory in a double reverse pendokok atop another bulbous ivory section sitting on a base of silver through which the blade is mounted. The blade and sheath is Ottoman as by the finial at the base and with the deep patina to the silver throughout, it has been stored away for a very long time.
I too would love to see the blade in more detail.

Clear political and religious links from the Ottoman power centre in to South East Asia. ..whether dressed in Turkey on pilgrimage or political business or re-hilted in Sumatra on political business or a sent either way as a gift, we'll probably never know.



Thanks for sharing

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Hello Gavin,

thank you for pinpoint down the dress of this dagger and maybe the blade as well.
Should I be the winner of it I will post for sure better pictures.

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This article may help make relations clearer too;

http://www.mei.edu/content/turkey-an...business-links

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This article may help make relations clearer too;

http://www.mei.edu/content/turkey-an...business-links

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Thank you again Gavin, very interesting and helpful!
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Just get informed that I am not the winner. Can't see the result for what price it went.

Hopefully an other member is the winner and will show us better pictures.
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