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Old 31st January 2011, 10:43 PM   #1
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Another new post , with another piece who I thinks it must be Indonesian but I'm not sure, it comes from an ancient collection, have only two pictures of it for the moment because I haven't receivt it yet. If somebody can tell me more about it ( its name and exactly origine) thank you in advance.
The handle is made of wood and represents monkey's head with big teeth, with a brass ferule .
The scabbard is in wood and its foot is made with bronze
It measure 18" OVLL
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Old 31st January 2011, 11:38 PM   #2
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Hello Eric,

when it is really old congrats to a very rare find! It is a Si euli in my humble opinion, one of the rarest and costly Indonesian daggers from Nias. It is good that you have a provenance for it, look that you can get the information when it comes to Europe. Search here a little bit with this name, you will found some threads. Also look to Zonneveld page 123/124.

But please look special this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=euli

It seems that there a lot of copys on the market. Michael will know if it's an original one.

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Old 31st January 2011, 11:59 PM   #3
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Thank you sajen,
Before to post my thread, I saw in the "Zonneveld" the Si euli but I was not sure. I bought this piece to an old ladie who sold the collection of her dead husband.
I will find more information.
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Old 1st February 2011, 12:02 AM   #4
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Thank you sajen,
Before to post my thread, I saw in the "Zonneveld" the Si euli but I was not sure. I bought this piece to an old ladie who sold the collection of her dead husband.
I will find more information.
Many thanks.
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How long is the blade?
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Old 1st February 2011, 12:21 AM   #5
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I know the total length 18" .But when I will recive it ( 3 days) I will answer with more précision.
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Old 1st February 2011, 01:28 AM   #6
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Nias then perhaps ?
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Old 1st February 2011, 07:37 AM   #7
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Hello Eric,

Sure, Nias. However, this doesn't look antique to me - most likely post-independance production IMHO.

Like Batak, Nias cultural artifacts have been extensively reproduced for selling to outsiders. At first, these apparently came from Nias with quality of craftmanship deteriorating during the 20th c. (as with Moro kris or Dayak mandau); during the last decades artisans from Bali seem to have been dominating the market with artificially patinated fakes AFAIK.

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I receivt it,
The blade legth is 10,2"
The hilt 4,2"
The patina is really old
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Old 4th February 2011, 08:29 PM   #10
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The wood is very light and made dark.
IMHO not something you see on old pieces

Here is another thread about similar knives.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=nias+dagger
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