A Sumbawa keris kalawija

[Jean]

Originally Posted by sipakatuo

Keris Bugis Sumbawa and or Keris Bugis Bima



I am researching and examining, finding facts and datas of keris bugis spread in Nusantara for the last few years and hopefully with the support from friends in Vikingsword I am able to release a book about Keris Bugis sometimes early next year.

Thank you

Andi M. Irvan Zulfikar a.k.a. Sipakatuo

Dear Sipakatuo,
It is very good news to hear about your project to write a book about keris Bugis in Nusantara as the knowledge about these krisses is very much lacking, I already reserve my copy!
Best regards
Jean

[Gustav]

Dear Sipakatuo,

thank you very much for the interesting post.

[Sajen]

Dear Sipakatuo,

very interesting post and you will have all my assistance for your book!

sajen

[Sajen]

Hello Sipakatuo,

maybe you can enlighten me about this keris. I collect it 1994 in a antique shop on Bali in very bad condition. Someone with good knowledge assumed that it is maybe a Sumbawa keris. What I never have seen before and after is that this keris have a mendak and selut, two pieces from different metal. All other comments are also very welcome, special about dapur and pamor.

[David]

I can't speak to the origin, but IMO this uwer was probably added on by someone in Bali. It looks awkward with the keris and i don't think it really belongs there.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by David

I can't speak to the origin, but IMO this uwer was probably added on by someone in Bali. It looks awkward with the keris and i don't think it really belongs there.

Hello David,

thank's for the comment, but I think when not original then already long together with the keris. I found it in very, very bad condition, heavily rusted and I have had big problems to open the hilt from the blade. And mendak and selut have been agglomerate heavily together. The hilt was fixed with hair to the blade and I think that this is a old manner to fix the hilt to the blade.

Detlef

[Sajen]

Here some additional pictures of the mendak and the worn and repaired selut.

[sipakatuo]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Sipakatuo,

maybe you can enlighten me about this keris. I collect it 1994 in a antique shop on Bali in very bad condition. Someone with good knowledge assumed that it is maybe a Sumbawa keris. What I never have seen before and after is that this keris have a mendak and selut, two pieces from different metal. All other comments are also very welcome, special about dapur and pamor.

Hello Sajen

IMHO yours is Sumbawa but the kili-kili/mendak is a mixture. The top part is usually found in Sumatra. Don't be surprise although yours is a replacement, that kind of mendak also exist in Nusa Tenggara Barat. I will post to this forum a Keris typical Sumatra found in NTB. There used to be a large number of Sumatran exiled to NTB and served as Moslem Kiyai/Ulama/Priest along with their family. Kampung Melayu/Melayu Village do exist in Bima and the Sultan of Bima very respect to this people.

[sipakatuo]

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[Gustav]

Sipakatuo, thank you very much.

A very nice and interesting pamor work on your blade.

I apologize for my very stupid mistake in the previous post. Sumbawa is one island, consisting of two land areas, joined by an isthmus.

There the two pictures, royal keris of Bima (1634) and a keris, attributed to Makassar(?), with figural hilts depicting Bima.

(Note the small gambar.)

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by sipakatuo

Hello Sajen

IMHO yours is Sumbawa but the kili-kili/mendak is a mixture. The top part is usually found in Sumatra. Don't be surprise although yours is a replacement, that kind of mendak also exist in Nusa Tenggara Barat. I will post to this forum a Keris typical Sumatra found in NTB. There used to be a large number of Sumatran exiled to NTB and served as Moslem Kiyai/Ulama/Priest along with their family. Kampung Melayu/Melayu Village do exist in Bima and the Sultan of Bima very respect to this people.

Hello Sipakatuo,

thank you very much. So which specifics let you think that this is a Sumbawa keris? The keris you show have indeed a very similar selut/pendokok. But what is with extra mendak? I am sure that the hilt, pendokok and mendak very long together with the blade.

sajen

[Gustav]

Dear All,

an interesting article about Keris Sumbawa:http://images.simatua.multiply.multi...?nmid=90251283