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Old 9th July 2009, 12:20 PM   #1
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I have started another thread on books. Btw your book #4 seems to have a wrong author, it should have been Egerton.

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From where do you have the picture of the bhuj, and can you show the whole one? Is there a picture of the concealed knife?

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Hi Jens,
Sorry its just a postage stamp sized picture and doesn't show any more. Its in 'Swords and Hilt Weapons'.
Interesting similarities though?

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Hi Gene,
Its an interesting bhuj. Have a look at the attached, the mounts are copper with traces of silver. The bhuj you show is likely to be from Sind/Kutch, but the bhuj belonging to the green scabbard is not from any of these places, maybe it is from Gujarat, I am not sure.
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Its an interesting bhuj. Have a look at the attached, the mounts are copper with traces of silver. The bhuj you show is likely to be from Sind/Kutch, but the bhuj belonging to the green scabbard is not from any of these places, maybe it is from Gujarat, I am not sure.
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Thats very similar to mine, silvered copper alloy. Very nice!
How do you so accurately assign location to such similar pieces? I'm rather impressed!

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jens you are correct. That is what happens when I write things quickly and off the top of my head.
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Gene,

In this case it is relatively easy. Visit museums, auction houses, and other places where you are likely to find the weapons you are interested in, Handle them if possible, but do remember their form and the decoration, At one point you will find weapons of which the provenience is without any doubt, pay special attention to these weapons and their decoration. Next time you see a weapon like that, compare it to the one you saw earlier, and see how many things they have in common. After some time you will be able to tell, but remember it takes time – I have collected for many years, and I am still learning.

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In this case it is relatively easy. Visit museums, auction houses, and other places where you are likely to find the weapons you are interested in, Handle them if possible, but do remember their form and the decoration, At one point you will find weapons of which the provenience is without any doubt, pay special attention to these weapons and their decoration. Next time you see a weapon like that, compare it to the one you saw earlier, and see how many things they have in common. After some time you will be able to tell, but remember it takes time – I have collected for many years, and I am still learning.

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Hi Jens,
Thanks for the help, I do understand what you are saying, but I meant specifically in this case. The decoration on the scabbard mounts on all of these seems to follow the same basic form. I dont understand how you could differentiate between them enough to allocate specific separate locations to their manufacture?
Hope that makes sense, thanks again.
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Hi Gene,
Maybe this thread will explain, at least some of the mystery.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=Bhuj
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