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Old 9th July 2009, 01:48 AM   #1
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No expert, but I think Manolo is right. These marks could correspond to the support for a jousting lance. Still, this appears to be a legit fighting piece of armor vs something used for the festivals or tournament.
BTW, posting a much later breast plate (ca 1810-30) on the Swap...
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Old 9th July 2009, 11:26 AM   #2
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Fernando,
those holes seem to be lines of three indents / holes .....a trident attack / damage


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Old 10th July 2009, 12:11 AM   #3
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Hi David,
Thanks for your imaginative colaboration . You are quite a solid support for riddling situations .
But then, it would have to be a 'fivedent' .
Don't know ... aren't the (five) holes too round for that ? wouldn't trident spikes be of angular cross section?
What sort of tridents? was there such weaponry around this cuirass environment?
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Old 10th July 2009, 05:38 PM   #4
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Hi Fernando,
the idea of the 'trident' was alittle 'tongue in cheek' but, I hope the pictures and quick (but poor ) diagrams may explain my reasoning....

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Hi David,
The diagrams are excelent and self explanatory.
I just wasn't swallowing the combination trident vs cuirass in the same scenary. I would also expect that trident perforations would leave an angular mark, not roundish. But that was only my reflex reaction, not necessarily an everlasting one.
I had a feeling you would react ; not with the sketches, which are super, but with a link showing period soldiers handling a trident. This is actually my main problem with this hipothesis.
My 'default' inferrement is that these marks would have been made to hold an insignia or a device.
Someone has already sugested this could be the marks from the riveting of a joust lance rest, for a left handed guy. But then again i think the holes set would have a different format, and also this breast plate looks more like a warrior than a tilt apparatus ... says i, within my ignorance .
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Old 10th July 2009, 06:27 PM   #6
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Hi Fernando,
perhaps not necessarilly a 'trident' but a trident 'headed' polearm. Millitary forks were a popular form, commonly two pronged ...but not all were. Usually used against horsemen but also foot soldiers.

The trouble is .....googling 'trident and weapon' usually brings up the nuclear missile ...and I suspect the armour would be little protection against such a weapon

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Hi Fernando,
casually browsing the web ....I came across this picture of a magazine....dated circa 1850 .....entitled Bornean weapons.

The Spanish were in Borneo, I believe, late 16th to the 19th century.....notice one of the spearheads

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The trouble is .....googling 'trident and weapon' usually brings up the nuclear missile ...and I suspect the armour would be little protection against such a weapon


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