Georgian Saber

TVV · 11th May 2009, 02:39 AM

Very nice! For me though it is becoming extremely hard to differentiate between the genuine Georgian items and the recently made ones.

Jason Anstey · 11th May 2009, 04:21 AM

Nice pick up indeed Ariel.

Fantastic that the belt is so nice as well, I would imagine that a belt such as this would be worth a lot of $$ on it's own - somewhere in the early 000's (sorry for the vulgarity of $ values)

Ahhh, I wish I had you knowledge of Russian, Caucasian and Georgian arms. I really want a Kuban Shashka but am too wary of Georgian fakes.

Well done again

Jason

ariel · 12th May 2009, 02:37 AM

Yes, with the emergence of the "New Russians" (a predatory stratum of the nuveau riche post-USSR society) the demand for Russian antiques went through the roof. Everybody wants to have Faberge jewelry, carved malachite vases, original paintings and, unfortunately, old weapons. And money is not an object.
But.... every demand is followed by an immediate supply. Thus, there is a whole industry in Russia, Georgia and in the US busily manufacturing antiques of all kinds and selling them for king's ransom. Since there are very good local artists, the quality may be excellent, with nary a hint of forgery. Often, however, the mistakes the forgers make are astoundingly stupid.
It is very risky to buy any antique weapon from Georgia. I know of only one very honest seller.
A joke: A New Russian bought a horrifically expensive Ming Dynasty vase, but then he became depressed, because it was made in China...

TVV · 12th May 2009, 03:09 AM

Ariel, while I understand the rules preclude you from posting the only honest Georgian dealer in this thread, I would be grateful if you send me his name/ eBay nickname through a PM.

Thank you,
Teodor

ariel · 12th May 2009, 03:43 AM

You have a PM

TVV · 12th May 2009, 06:32 AM

Thank you Ariel.

Gonzalo G · 12th May 2009, 07:16 AM

!Wow! I don´t have much knowledge (if any) about caucasian, turkish and oriental european edged weapons, BUT I LOVE THEM!
Regards

Gonzalo

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11th May 2009, 04:21 AM	#2
Jason Anstey Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 102	Nice pick up indeed Ariel. Fantastic that the belt is so nice as well, I would imagine that a belt such as this would be worth a lot of $$ on it's own - somewhere in the early 000's (sorry for the vulgarity of $ values) Ahhh, I wish I had you knowledge of Russian, Caucasian and Georgian arms. I really want a Kuban Shashka but am too wary of Georgian fakes. Well done again Jason

12th May 2009, 02:37 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Yes, with the emergence of the "New Russians" (a predatory stratum of the nuveau riche post-USSR society) the demand for Russian antiques went through the roof. Everybody wants to have Faberge jewelry, carved malachite vases, original paintings and, unfortunately, old weapons. And money is not an object. But.... every demand is followed by an immediate supply. Thus, there is a whole industry in Russia, Georgia and in the US busily manufacturing antiques of all kinds and selling them for king's ransom. Since there are very good local artists, the quality may be excellent, with nary a hint of forgery. Often, however, the mistakes the forgers make are astoundingly stupid. It is very risky to buy any antique weapon from Georgia. I know of only one very honest seller. A joke: A New Russian bought a horrifically expensive Ming Dynasty vase, but then he became depressed, because it was made in China...

12th May 2009, 03:09 AM	#4
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,755	Ariel, while I understand the rules preclude you from posting the only honest Georgian dealer in this thread, I would be grateful if you send me his name/ eBay nickname through a PM. Thank you, Teodor

12th May 2009, 03:43 AM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	You have a PM

12th May 2009, 06:32 AM	#6
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,755	Thank you Ariel.

12th May 2009, 07:16 AM	#7
Gonzalo G Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nothern Mexico Posts: 458	!Wow! I don´t have much knowledge (if any) about caucasian, turkish and oriental european edged weapons, BUT I LOVE THEM! Regards Gonzalo