Possible date attribution for Persian shield

[Rick]

Then we must also wonder if the scales represented might be reptilian .

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by Rick

Then we must also wonder if the scales represented might be reptilian .

It sure is good to have you back Rick!!!

Reptilian? ahah! very astute Nagan associations perhaps? Excellent thought. I was thinking about the fish as Jens had described as I was pondering the great detail he was referring to with the floral motif, and hadn't thought of the snake.
While the fish is indeed important in varying degree in many Indian cultures, I'm not aware of the Persian application, but I feel relatively certain the snake has important symbolism in Persia as well.

Whatever the case, it provides a most attractive field in the motif, and I'm glad Rand posted it here!

All the best,
Jim

[rand]

Originally Posted by Rick

Then we must also wonder if the scales represented might be reptilian .

Hey Rick,

Am very open to all opinions as it is my strong belief that any theor has to be proven over the scrutiny of time. Do you know of any fish scale examples used in Persian or Indian art?

These scale designs when used inside the calligraphy cartouche may become one of the characteristics associating it with the 19th century in Islamic metalwork. Its was just very surprising and exiting to see it for the first time.

Thanks for your suggestion,
rand

[Jim McDougall]

Rand,
Just wanted to say I am very much enjoying examining this shield, and appreciate you sharing the subtleties in the overall piece in noting and supporting your thoughts on why it is Persian. It is great to have an example like this to learn from , and adding detailed comments really helps us understand key characteristics for future reference.
It is this kind of discussion, analysis and supported observations that really make our studies worthwhile.
Although we have not yet arrived conclusively at the nature of all the motif elements, it seems we're on the right trail, and its great seeing the observations everyone here is sharing.
Thank you !

All the best,
Jim

[rand]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Rand,
Just wanted to say I am very much enjoying examining this shield, and appreciate you sharing the subtleties in the overall piece in noting and supporting your thoughts on why it is Persian. It is great to have an example like this to learn from , and adding detailed comments really helps us understand key characteristics for future reference.
It is this kind of discussion, analysis and supported observations that really make our studies worthwhile.
Although we have not yet arrived conclusively at the nature of all the motif elements, it seems we're on the right trail, and its great seeing the observations everyone here is sharing.
Thank you !

All the best,
Jim

Hey Jim,

Thanks for the kind words,

Am just very appreciative for everyones feedback, added information and opinions....

rand