22nd February 2009, 06:56 PM | #1 |
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Daab/ Dah Makers Marks
I was thinking it would be intersting to start a thread on daarb/ dha makers marks.
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22nd February 2009, 08:05 PM | #2 |
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sometimes the spine marks are also informative
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This is probably a very common one
... But i still have no trace on its meaning . Fernando . |
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OK Here are a few to get the ball rolling.
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23rd February 2009, 06:37 PM | #5 |
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Great thread! Unfortunately, most of the marks are in need of translation, for me. I only know the meaning of two - the "turtle" mark, which my understanding denotes a northern Thai (Chaing Mai) origin, and the "bitter melon seed" (two rosettes), which indicates Aranyik. I have one that bears both:
I am somewhat tentative in the attribution, however, as I only have it from one source, who has been inaccurate in some other respects. Here are a couple others I have seen: I would be great if some of our Thai colleagues could verify any of this. |
24th February 2009, 06:42 AM | #6 |
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Another to add...anyone have a sword with the same?
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...and another one
Forgot this one. On the same blade as the first one above. The script is MON which is the forerunner to modern Burmese, but there is also what appears to be a stilletto type mark.
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25th February 2009, 06:28 AM | #8 |
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Interesting piece Stuart, I have not seen many with the Mon script. I do not know much on the Mon people. So here is what I looked up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mon_people |
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not as yet had a translation of the markings on this dha's grip, i've assumed it's some sort of dedication or presentation inscription.
the blade itself is unmarked. the phoenix on the grip also has an inscription over it. overall dha for context |
26th February 2009, 06:43 AM | #10 |
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Mark....I thought it might be funny/ interesting for you to know that when I showed an thai friend, the 4th picture you posted....she said the thai script on the blade looked like the thai word "Hell"!!!!!
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26th February 2009, 04:31 PM | #11 |
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No kidding?! Interesting choice for a maker's mark.
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29th September 2009, 03:01 PM | #13 |
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Some more marks for the archives
Some more marks for the archives;
All four images from the one sword. Gav Last edited by freebooter; 29th September 2009 at 03:14 PM. |
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Some more your the archives
Some more markings, although I wouldn't say a "makers marks" as such but were certainly marks/design when made.
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30th September 2009, 03:52 PM | #15 |
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Beautiful pieces...thanks for sharing Gav
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7th November 2009, 11:47 PM | #16 |
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Another one :
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11028 |
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A couple more from Ebay
A couple more from Ebay, maybe the owner is among us?
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4th January 2010, 12:30 PM | #18 |
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Another for the Dhafia
Another group of markings on a nice ivory hilted Dha. I have included the dha hilt too as I have not seen this much attention payed to ivory other than the real exotic carved pieces.
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24th January 2010, 11:25 PM | #21 |
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Arrow
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This pistol marking is from the Yuen Lam provence on the China Burma border is late 1970-1980s. Gav |
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http://www.arscives.com/historysteel.../236-ayw21.jpg
Listed as a British production piece and the BP4, (British Police?), but I didn't see anything listed on the arrow mark....I just did some searching on the internet under British arrow mark and came up with the "Broad Arrow": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad_arrow |
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http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002441.html
Great find on the "broad arrow" mark, Nathaniel. As I mentioned to you privately, the "BP4" referenced in the HOS catalogue was a mistake--the "4" referred to the arrow mark. Given the other "___ P" marks I've seen on bayonets, I'm inclined to think the "BP" stands for Burma Police, but that's mostly speculation on my part. Cheers, Andrew |
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Sweet, love references to the old forum threads. Thanks for the clarification Andrew...
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