Real or copy? (Montante, Bastard, Claymore)

ward · 10th December 2008, 03:20 AM

Not my area but waht is the weight on this rapier like?

Marc · 10th December 2008, 09:05 AM

The blade *could* be genuine 16th - 17th c., but better pictures (short of direct inspection) would be needed. For the hilt, my bets go to "modern" (19th-early 20th c.) on stylistic, decorative and construction grounds (I agree with Ed in that there's a certain degree of... "pimp-ness"... in it

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celtan · 10th December 2008, 01:54 PM

Well, I guess I may have been an English Pimp in a past life, cuz I like the darn thingie...

I'll try to take more pics and weight the items next time I visit.

BTW:

Does anyone know of a mid 19th C. European armourer/s by the initials ISB?

Best

M

Ed · 10th December 2008, 04:18 PM

The blade looks ok to me but, my dear, that hilt.

You know, if it were cheap enough, I'd think about buying it, loosing the hilt and displaying the blade.

celtan · 19th December 2008, 06:26 PM

INSCRIPTIONS:

A. "SI VIS PACEM/PARA BELLUM"
If you wish peace, prepare for war
B. "VERBUM DOMINI / MANET IN AETERNUM"
God's word is eternal (Lutheran Motto)

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10th December 2008, 03:20 AM	#1
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Not my area but waht is the weight on this rapier like?

10th December 2008, 09:05 AM	#2
Marc Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Madrid / Barcelona Posts: 256	The blade could be genuine 16th - 17th c., but better pictures (short of direct inspection) would be needed. For the hilt, my bets go to "modern" (19th-early 20th c.) on stylistic, decorative and construction grounds (I agree with Ed in that there's a certain degree of... "pimp-ness"... in it )

10th December 2008, 01:54 PM	#3
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Well, I guess I may have been an English Pimp in a past life, cuz I like the darn thingie... I'll try to take more pics and weight the items next time I visit. BTW: Does anyone know of a mid 19th C. European armourer/s by the initials ISB? Best M

10th December 2008, 04:18 PM	#4
Ed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 315	The blade looks ok to me but, my dear, that hilt. You know, if it were cheap enough, I'd think about buying it, loosing the hilt and displaying the blade.

19th December 2008, 06:26 PM	#5
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	INSCRIPTIONS: A. "SI VIS PACEM/PARA BELLUM" If you wish peace, prepare for war B. "VERBUM DOMINI / MANET IN AETERNUM" God's word is eternal (Lutheran Motto)