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Old 28th October 2008, 09:57 AM   #1
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On Timor however you find Kampilans with hughe handles....

In my opinion they have more in common with the head of a hornbill.


Hi Arjan,

I see what you mean and it looks indeed at a hornbill's head.
Did you noticed that the last pic of your Timor-examples has the hilt upsidedown?

The ,hairy, part of the hilt normally is on the ,edge, side of the blade.
To this one the ,hairy, side is at the backside of the blade (non-edge).

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Old 29th October 2008, 05:36 PM   #2
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Hi Arjan,

I see what you mean and it looks indeed at a hornbill's head.
Did you noticed that the last pic of your Timor-examples has the hilt upsidedown?

The ,hairy, part of the hilt normally is on the ,edge, side of the blade.
To this one the ,hairy, side is at the backside of the blade (non-edge).
Hi Maurice,

yes, I seen but its no doubt that its turned when it was rehilted.
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Old 29th October 2008, 06:39 PM   #3
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There is no proof off that this type off kampilan was from philipine origine

There is only the name kampilan but the form is not proven from philipine .



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Old 29th October 2008, 09:01 PM   #4
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Interesting with the ship and mast theory on the spike.
But I assume it's just speculation from the article writer, or?
Also most really old kampilan don't have this spike feature.
On crocodiles they are considered holy ("keramat") in Folk Islam too, especially if they are extraordinary large or white.
In Hindu times they were, like the tiger, connected to Batara Guru - Shiva.

On the origin, old sources, Dusun-attribute etc. we discussed that in depth in this old thread.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5032

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