coments on this...a help

[Henk]

Alan,

Thank you for your explanation.
Looking a little bit further I have to agree with you. The gandar is in a good condition and the scabbard on the backside has a matching patina between gandar and wrongko.
Probably the discolouration is a result of one of the possibilities you mentioned.

[ferrylaki]

Originally Posted by Henk

Alan,

Thank you for your explanation.
Looking a little bit further I have to agree with you. The gandar is in a good condition and the scabbard on the backside has a matching patina between gandar and wrongko.
Probably the discolouration is a result of one of the possibilities you mentioned.

The pelet motive on the gayaman seem too bright, pelet motive usually comes darker. I also agree about the gandar is a match with the gayaman.
thia is an example of my old timoho gayaman. the motive is not a favorite one, but still nice though. a very dark pelet timoho.
Some friends told me it is a east java gayaman style.

I've seen some modification on pelet motive. mostly they were found on " pelet kendhit" ( belt pattern pelet) in order to make the pattern they some kind of put something hot on the gayaman ( wood) the burnt wood left a dark
pattern...they made a circular ( horizontal) pattern around the gayaman, and a pelet kendit it is. but unfortunately I dont have the picture of the fake pelet kendhit.

FERRY

[Marcokeris]

Could the two sarong be from Madura area?

[Emanuel]

Thanks Henk and Ferry for the explanation. I had not seen this done before.

Emanuel

[blacklacrau]

This type of hilt is not very usual? I do not remember to have seen images like this one...
Thanks

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by blacklacrau

This type of hilt is not very usual? I do not remember to have seen images like this one...
Thanks

The hilt seems without the usual patras on the front portion of the hilt. Shape of the hilt resembles the stylistic semar type...

[ferrylaki]

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

The hilt seems without the usual patras on the front portion of the hilt. Shape of the hilt resembles the stylistic semar type...

This is another picture of the hilt. not a specific one, but this is a better picture .
The hilt has some differences from the usual hilt tipe.
may be east java style ( I dont know) .
Please....

regardds,
Ferrylaki ( Indonesia)

[Henk]

Originally Posted by blacklacrau

This type of hilt is not very usual? I do not remember to have seen images like this one...
Thanks

As Alam Shah said it resembles the stylistic semar type without the usual patras on the front side. I've seen these ukirans more often. If I'm not mistaken this kind of ukiran is more usual in East Java.
I must admit that I really appriciate this type of ukiran.

[asian-keris]

Keris to my opinion From Madura area 1900 piece.