Keris Oil

David · 13th November 2007, 04:51 AM

Alan, i am still having trouble locating kenanga oil. While it is not essential (or hopefull is if you get my pun

) it does add an edge that i am very fond of. On the internet i often see it described as also being ylang ylang oil, but i am sure that while they share a similar source that this is a different oil because ylang ylang tends to be sweet, not edgy. If someone has a good source for kenanga could they please post it?

A. G. Maisey · 13th November 2007, 06:55 AM

Yeah, lots of people can't find kenanga. It is available from essential oil suppliers in Australia.I know a bloke who runs a pretentious little shop that sells Asian dreams. He sometimes has it, next time I see him I'll ask where he gets it. He might tell me, if its not the wrong time of the month.

The whole point of minyak cendana, or mawar, or anything else, is just for the smell. It doesn't do anything at all for preservation. If preservation is all we're interested in, use a good gun oil--- smells bad, but it works well.

So if you want to cut the proportions of cendana, or cut it out altogether, it really doesn't matter. Ordinary light machine oil is a good preservative too, something like sewing machine oil.

As to sandalwood oil staining the blade, never seen this happen. I've been using my mix now for about 30 years, and I've never seen the warangan go bad because of the oil.

Actually, the best way to preserve your blade is by oiling and then putting the oiled blade into a light plastic sleeve. In Indonesia you can buy rolls of plastic of various widths and thicknesses---its used for making little plastic bags for food, you get it from the plastic shops (toko plastik) ---just cut a length of this and slip the oiled blade into it, then twist it tight around the blade before putting the blade back in the wrongko. Stops the wrongko getting oil stained, stops the oil drying out. Don't know where to buy this stuff in Australia, but plastic sandwich wrap works pretty good too.

Rick · 13th November 2007, 03:05 PM

David ,

I have four ounces of the stuff (Cananga Odorata); I'll send some your way if you'd like .

David · 13th November 2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

David ,

I have four ounces of the stuff (Cananga Odorata); I'll send some your way if you'd like .

Yes please!

Does it have a sharp scent or sweet like ylang ylang? Apparently they are from the same species of plant, though there may be some differences.

Rick · 13th November 2007, 08:19 PM

It bites the nose a bit .

lang · 13th November 2007, 08:48 PM

Yeah, it took me forever to figure out that medicinal or liquid paraffin is simply mineral oil.

I get my kenanga oil (aka cananga odorata macrophylla) from Liberty Natural (libertynatural.com) (they list it as cananga indonesia) I also get my sandalwood oil from there too. Because both are concentrated essential oils, I just drop some of each into the mineral oil and I'm good to go (actually any more I just use the sandalwood oil).

FYI, here's a summation of what my research indicated about the difference between ylang ylang and kenanga oil:

"Do not confuse [ylang ylang (Cananga odorata)] with Cananga oil, a more medicinal & less florally odoured oil, which is produced in Java from Cananga odorata subsp macrophylla." http://www.holisticaroma.co.uk/articles/ylang_ylang.php

Cheers,
Joel

David · 13th November 2007, 09:33 PM

Thanks Joel and welcome to the forum.

lemmythesmith · 13th November 2007, 09:48 PM

I've been using Japanese choji oil (oil of cloves) and it keeps the rust off, smells nice too!! I might have a change though and try Alan's recipe.

13th November 2007, 03:05 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Cananga Oil David , I have four ounces of the stuff (Cananga Odorata); I'll send some your way if you'd like .

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13th November 2007, 04:51 AM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Alan, i am still having trouble locating kenanga oil. While it is not essential (or hopefull is if you get my pun ) it does add an edge that i am very fond of. On the internet i often see it described as also being ylang ylang oil, but i am sure that while they share a similar source that this is a different oil because ylang ylang tends to be sweet, not edgy. If someone has a good source for kenanga could they please post it?

13th November 2007, 06:55 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Yeah, lots of people can't find kenanga. It is available from essential oil suppliers in Australia.I know a bloke who runs a pretentious little shop that sells Asian dreams. He sometimes has it, next time I see him I'll ask where he gets it. He might tell me, if its not the wrong time of the month. The whole point of minyak cendana, or mawar, or anything else, is just for the smell. It doesn't do anything at all for preservation. If preservation is all we're interested in, use a good gun oil--- smells bad, but it works well. So if you want to cut the proportions of cendana, or cut it out altogether, it really doesn't matter. Ordinary light machine oil is a good preservative too, something like sewing machine oil. As to sandalwood oil staining the blade, never seen this happen. I've been using my mix now for about 30 years, and I've never seen the warangan go bad because of the oil. Actually, the best way to preserve your blade is by oiling and then putting the oiled blade into a light plastic sleeve. In Indonesia you can buy rolls of plastic of various widths and thicknesses---its used for making little plastic bags for food, you get it from the plastic shops (toko plastik) ---just cut a length of this and slip the oiled blade into it, then twist it tight around the blade before putting the blade back in the wrongko. Stops the wrongko getting oil stained, stops the oil drying out. Don't know where to buy this stuff in Australia, but plastic sandwich wrap works pretty good too.

13th November 2007, 08:19 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	It bites the nose a bit .

13th November 2007, 08:48 PM	#6
lang Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 6	Yeah, it took me forever to figure out that medicinal or liquid paraffin is simply mineral oil. I get my kenanga oil (aka cananga odorata macrophylla) from Liberty Natural (libertynatural.com) (they list it as cananga indonesia) I also get my sandalwood oil from there too. Because both are concentrated essential oils, I just drop some of each into the mineral oil and I'm good to go (actually any more I just use the sandalwood oil). FYI, here's a summation of what my research indicated about the difference between ylang ylang and kenanga oil: "Do not confuse [ylang ylang (Cananga odorata)] with Cananga oil, a more medicinal & less florally odoured oil, which is produced in Java from Cananga odorata subsp macrophylla." http://www.holisticaroma.co.uk/articles/ylang_ylang.php Cheers, Joel

13th November 2007, 09:33 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Thanks Joel and welcome to the forum.

13th November 2007, 09:48 PM	#8
lemmythesmith Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 93	I've been using Japanese choji oil (oil of cloves) and it keeps the rust off, smells nice too!! I might have a change though and try Alan's recipe.