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I'm so sorry you got screwed.
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Thats a shame, Id have taken a chance on it as well if it was cheap...
Lots of them have plastic handles. Including most that are sold as amber..... Buffalo horn is a lot more common than rhino as well. Spiral |
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Amber is resin, a hot pin will sink into it. Amber is affected by perfume or alcohol but do not think plastic is, well not to the same extent. By and large I feel these really are not worth going after unless you can handle them. I also speak from experience. I think in all the years collesting I have only seen three or four worth anything near the money asked.
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I am so sorry David.
I wish for you that it wouldn't have happened. I dye a little when it happens to me. Can't you stuff it back? Fernando |
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Thank you for your replies,
This was a very cheap purchase (the seller has kindly offered to refund half the money ) and I have learned valuable lessons which will help me prevent more costly mistakes ![]() ![]() The fumes from the hot pin test smelt 'plasticky' .....I would imagine that amber would give off a more aromatic aroma ![]() Kind Regards David |
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Just because it's a cheap jambiya doesn't mean it is not a genuine ethnographic item. The population of Yemen was 7 million in the 60's and has grown to 22 million today. Every man wears one. That's several million jambiyas. They are like ties for Westeners and once you get out of the wealthy antique class, most impoverished Yemeni men(who make up the majority of the population) want a nice new shiny one. So, there are millions of them floating around.
Bakelite amber has been around since the 1800's. I have never heard of genuine amber (fossilized tree sap) in a jambiya handle anyway. A piece real amber that size would be worth a lot of money compared to the going rate for a jambiya. Also, the majority of the blades are made with two layers of sheet metal, they are for looks, not use and this makes them lighter to wear all day. I used to watch them made in the souq. The maker would hammer out the two sides, braze the halves together and then burnish the welds. Antique jambiyas of any quality are very rare nowadays and new ones are made to imitate the older jambiyas, even for the locals to buy. |
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Thank you Micheal for putting this Jambiya into a social context, I imagined that ...because of the knife's cultural significance, (I believed) that many would be passed down through the generations. The population 'explosion' that you mentioned would certainly explain the demand...and lack of 'heirloom' Jambiya's.
The bakerlite amber, which I am assuming is the material this Jambiya's hilt is made, is quite convincing, it has a 'grainy' structure with varying translucence and is not unattractive. Regards David |
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Interesting input, Michael
One often reads that blades made in two halves are tourist junk. Also that rhino horn in the hilts is the real thing. May i show ( again) my specimen, all in ( coin? ) silver, with an entire blade. The silver work seems to have been made by Jew smiths, as it has a "concealed" mark supposedly in Temani ( Yemeny hebrew ). I have read somewhere that Jew smiths were the best for the silver work, but they were not allowed to make blades. I ignore the real age of this piece, but i guess (hope) it is XIX century. Sorry to have hijacked your thread, David. Fernando |
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Interesting Micheal Ethnographic items indeed then! Not weapons though, when they have hollow blades? just dress items?
many Thousands are made of rhino Fernando, millions are buffalo or plastic. Thats a very nice looking one you have there....very nice.... Spiral |
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