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Old 25th May 2007, 09:18 AM   #1
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All Jimmy's peace are beautifully made.
A question: in a picture in another thread I saw a completre sarong made by Tayuman . When i ask for tayuman in Yogya, people told me that the tree of tayuman is very little and so is possible to make hit but not sarong. Could i have some right news about tayuman?
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Old 25th May 2007, 10:24 AM   #2
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...in a picture in another thread I saw a completre sarong made by Tayuman: confused: When I ask for tayuman in Yogya, people told me that the tree of tayuman is very little and so is possible to make hit but not sarong. Could i have some right news about tayuman?
Tayuman, or Cassia laevigata wild, is a kind of bush tree. Of course, rarely tayuman tree has a big trunk possible to make keris sheath. In the other thread, I just comment that Raden Usman keris' sheath is "probably" made of tayuman wood. That's probably.

So, tayuman is mostly used as hilts. Old tayuman hilts, are expensive in Yogyakarta and Surakarta. Also expensive, "kemuning werut" (red and striped kemuning). One Yogyakartanese tayuman hilt could cost until Rp 300-500.000 or around 50 euro per piece. Compare to normal hilt, of around 75.000 rupiahs.

Usually, old tayuman hilts are "submerged" if you put them on water. That's the way the Javanese choose, whether the hilts are tayuman or not. Would you try, in Yogyakarta next July Marco?

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Old 25th May 2007, 11:44 AM   #3
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Hii Marco,

Tayuman is the best (and first choice) use for hilt keris at Jogjakarta dan Surakarta , "kemuning werut" after Tayuman.

Hilt with Tayuman wood ussually/commonly use for Keris Tayuhan or "Keris Pusoko"

soory guys, my english is very bad
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Old 25th May 2007, 03:05 PM   #4
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Hii Marco,

Tayuman is the best (and first choice) use for hilt keris at Jogjakarta dan Surakarta , "kemuning werut" after Tayuman.

Hilt with Tayuman wood ussually/commonly use for Keris Tayuhan or "Keris Pusoko"

soory guys, my english is very bad
Thanks Cahaya
don't worry for your English also my is not good :important thing is to understand.
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Old 26th May 2007, 04:59 AM   #5
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Dear All,
Tayuman or Cassia laevigata Wild, usually "reddish" and no "serat" (lines grain). Look at the "lonely" Yogyakartanese hilt below. The other two behind are of "kemuning werut" (Muraya particulata Jack) with lines.

Kemuning werut, is used in Bugis handle or Sumba handle too, like in the following picture. You may look also the lines grain in the Bugis hilt and Sumba hilt. Darker color than the tayuman...

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Old 26th May 2007, 06:27 AM   #6
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Ganja,

I think the hilt might be from Sumbawa, not Sumba.
AFAIK on Sumba there never was any local keris culture and production.
But Sumbawa (Bima) has had both Bugis and Lombok connections keriswise.

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Ganja,

I think the hilt might be from Sumbawa, not Sumba.
AFAIK on Sumba there never was any local keris culture and production.
But Sumbawa (Bima) has had both Bugis and Lombok connections keriswise.

Michael
Hi Michael,
Sorry for being late to response your post. Exactly you are right. It might be Sumbawa and not Sumba. Thanks for the correction...

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