Some Help with a Balinese Keris

Alam Shah · 6th February 2005, 02:09 PM

Henk,
If you don't mind, could you let us know the title of the book that you are 'reading'. This should help in updating our knowledge.

BSMStar · 6th February 2005, 05:42 PM

Now that was a curve I did not expect!

... LomboK?

That would really put me back to "square one" since I know even less about Lombok Keris. The joys of collecting!

Henk · 6th February 2005, 09:35 PM

Alam Shah,

Sorry, that was not too smart. To mention reading a book and not telling wich one. It is "Keris (di) Lombok" by Ir. H. Lalu Djelenga

BSMStar · 8th February 2005, 01:54 PM

I have seen this hilt IDed as Bayu.... but also as Bima (see link)

Bima
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/k...kiran_bali.htm
Bayu
http://www.ethno-museum.ac.at/en/col...a/indon2l.html

Are they the same or different deities?

Mick · 8th February 2005, 04:44 PM

BSMStar

It's Bayu. The attribute is the Amrita held in the right hand accross the chest.

I have a Hanuman with the Amrita for which I haven't figured the reason. Hanuman is recognized by the tail that curls up over the top of his head.

Bima is a hero. Batara Bayu is a God. The "God of Winds" if my memory serves me right. He is also the father of Hanuman (the White Monkey General).

BSMStar · 8th February 2005, 06:20 PM

Thank you Mick,

That is what I thought. The thread on your awesome hilt (like your Avatar) had the link to the Bima hilt which looked a lot like this one. Thank you for clearing that up for me!

John · 9th February 2005, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick

BSMStar

It's Bayu. The attribute is the Amrita held in the right hand accross the chest.

Bima is a hero. Batara Bayu is a God. The "God of Winds" if my memory serves me right. He is also the father of Hanuman (the White Monkey General).

Still reasonably fresh from my reading of the Mahabaratha (Indian version) pertaining to Mick's other thread. If I remembered correctly, the "god of wind" is called Vayu and he was the god Pandu's wife kunti invoked for the conception of Bima, primarily for strength (Pandu was a celibate). So I presume Bayu is the Balinese version (spelling) of the god of wind.

BSMStar · 9th February 2005, 06:44 PM

Thank you John and Mick.

As you can tell, I am relatively new to the forum... and a new student to the Balinese/Lombok/Hindu cultures.

Your help is greatly appreciated!!

6th February 2005, 02:09 PM	#1
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Title of book. Henk, If you don't mind, could you let us know the title of the book that you are 'reading'. This should help in updating our knowledge.

6th February 2005, 05:42 PM	#2
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Wowwwww! Now that was a curve I did not expect! ... LomboK? That would really put me back to "square one" since I know even less about Lombok Keris. The joys of collecting!

8th February 2005, 01:54 PM	#4
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Bima or Bayu I have seen this hilt IDed as Bayu.... but also as Bima (see link) Bima http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/k...kiran_bali.htm Bayu http://www.ethno-museum.ac.at/en/col...a/indon2l.html Are they the same or different deities?

9th February 2005, 06:44 PM	#8
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Vayu/Bayu Thank you John and Mick. As you can tell, I am relatively new to the forum... and a new student to the Balinese/Lombok/Hindu cultures. Your help is greatly appreciated!!

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6th February 2005, 09:35 PM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Alam Shah, Sorry, that was not too smart. To mention reading a book and not telling wich one. It is "Keris (di) Lombok" by Ir. H. Lalu Djelenga

8th February 2005, 04:44 PM	#5
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	BSMStar It's Bayu. The attribute is the Amrita held in the right hand accross the chest. I have a Hanuman with the Amrita for which I haven't figured the reason. Hanuman is recognized by the tail that curls up over the top of his head. Bima is a hero. Batara Bayu is a God. The "God of Winds" if my memory serves me right. He is also the father of Hanuman (the White Monkey General).

8th February 2005, 06:20 PM	#6
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Thank you Mick, That is what I thought. The thread on your awesome hilt (like your Avatar) had the link to the Bima hilt which looked a lot like this one. Thank you for clearing that up for me!