Two new additions to the Luzon collection

[JeffS]

Both are very nice. The handle of the top piece looks very heavy relative to the narrow blade profile, must be interesting to handle. For the second, is tabak a name for the style?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by JeffS

Both are very nice. The handle of the top piece looks very heavy relative to the narrow blade profile, must be interesting to handle.

Thanks Jeff! Yes the weight is at the handle, it's a long dagger and can be handled like this.

Originally Posted by JeffS

For the second, is tabak a name for the style?

Raymundo stated it!

Regards,
Detlef

[drac2k]

Fantastic!

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by drac2k

Fantastic!

Thanks David!

[Ian]

More excellent additions to your Luzon collection of Spanish colonial knives from the 19th C. Congratulations!

Here are several that you posted previously and I think it's helpful to keep them together because Xasterix added his expertise in assigning origins for them also. Here are the identifications that he settled on a couple of years ago:

1. Quezon
2. [correction] Pangasinan
3. Pampanga
4. [correction] Bulacan OR Pampanga
5. [correction] Northern Luzon
6. Quezon
7. Pangasinan

Regards,

Ian.
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[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Ian

More excellent additions to your Luzon collection of Spanish colonial knives from the 19th C. Congratulations!

Here are several that you posted previously and I think it's helpful to keep them together because Xasterix added his expertise in assigning origins for them also. Here are the identifications that he settled on a couple of years ago:

1. Quezon
2. [correction] Pangasinan
3. Pampanga
4. [correction] Bulacan OR Pampanga
5. [correction] Northern Luzon
6. Quezon
7. Pangasinan

Thank you Ian,

Will soon post a new overview, there is also this piece in the pic, a Pangasinan katana, which will come to me tomorrow.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

And this Tagalog bolo also! So a new overview is required!

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Thank you Ian,

Will soon post a new overview, there is also this piece in the pic, a Pangasinan katana, which will come to me tomorrow.

Regards,
Detlef

I find it very difficult to distinguish between many Pangasinan and Ilocos Sur knives. Both provinces are overwhelmingly Ilokano, so they share a lot of ethnic characteristics and skills. Likewise Ilocos norte. There are also many Ilokanos in Pampanga, and one wonders to what extent those Ilokano influences have been adopted and renamed Kapampangan.

The sinan-kapitan hilt, for example, seems to be found throughout the Ilokano homelands, and Xasterix has stated that it might also be produced in Pampanga. Presumably we are looking for other, more subtle features in order to assign these local designations. Unfortunately, our Filipino colleagues have not been forthcoming with those details, and there has yet to emerge a publication that provides the necessary information. Based on prior concerns expressed on this forum, I am not confident that a complete classification of these knives will get published.