Help to identify a sword

[CutlassCollector]

Interesting sword and discussion.
What stands out for me is the grip. It does not look as though you could get a good hold on such a long and heavy sword with that slim tapered grip.

Unless of course parts of the grip are missing and the tang has been covered over.

[francantolin]

Ausjulius, have you 1-2 pictures of the 1880 Norman sword or similar exemple
for comparison and just for pleasure to see it,

Usually , 19th reproductions would look lîke original old models,
for make money or for revival this one is really different and as Tim Simmons
mentioned, the did a really good job just for a fantasy deco sword.


In the book "the history of chivalry and armor",
I found some interesting different types of medieval sword away from usual models
( like falchions...) ,
blades, are not so far away.
The sword was from John George I, Elector of Saxony

+ norman warriors drawings who match for hilt and pommel of the sword.
I think it was the principal influence for the bladesmith/ the owner- buyer
19th century or earlier ...
Almonzo,
The best thing is to show it in an history museum to an expert or curator ( ++ sure if they have medieval pieces and weapons )
In wich country do you live ?

[Tim Simmons]

A very good post. Makes me think that perhaps it may possibly be 16th century tounament display type of thing. A processional or state functional bearers sword of the 16th century and latter. There is a photo of one here which I will find latter. German 16th century a hand and half hilt sword with a sawfish bill as the blade. Something like this. Although the item in question appears smaller that might depend on the size or importance of the office.

[Tim Simmons]

I am going to change my mind and go for a real weapon. 16th century possibly 17th. Looking and at the item, just looks too well made, great steel, really nice patina and as said before good for taking off body parts. Take it too a proper museum.

ps

Is that a mark , funny looking scratch? on the pommel. Cannot see it being used against armour. Still going with real 17th century.

[Almonzo]

Thank you a lot for your messages !
You help really much !
I live in a village away from Parma in Italy,
I will see the museum who can be ok ( without going to Firenze or Roma )
On the pommel I thought there was a cross but it is not,
maybe just a big scratch because it was under rust and still is visible.

The grip can be ok because when we grab the hilt and twirl or spin the sword,
The hand is "blocked"by the pommel who stabilise and make the movement easier
The second hand.is welcomed forward but I can not make a picture.

[Tim Simmons]

Looking really good. You could go to the "Poldi Pezzoli" Milan. Perhaps also nearer. Two opinions better than one.

https://www.palazzofarnese.piacenza.it/en/page/armi

[CutlassCollector]

Thanks, Almonzo, for the picture of holding the sword. I see how the grip works now and it shows how it could be used single or two handed.

Do you think that the way the blade swells out at the hilt is a protective measure to protect the hand from an attacking strike running down the blade, by sweeping it aside?

Great looking sword and looks as though it was made to fight.