Bellarmine

Akanthus · 17th January 2026, 05:51 PM

St.Quirinus

M ELEY · 18th January 2026, 02:43 AM

Wow, Acanthus, this is really great information and it would seem you are onto something. Now I'll have to do some research on my Bellarmine to see if perhaps it is more than a 'fantasy symbol' on mine. Admittedly, yours is earlier than mine and many of the smaller, early types did indeed have real coats-of-arms.

BANDOOK · 9th April 2026, 10:23 AM

Hi Akanthus, saw your post of Belarmines , here are 2 of mine which I found in India , one is with the Amsterdam coat of Arms .Circa 1570-1600, Raren , Germany

Akanthus · 12th April 2026, 06:06 PM

Hi BANDOOK
Very nice Bellarmines.One with the three crosses of Amsterdam.Never thought that one could find them in India nowadays.But i think they were spread worldwide in the 17th.and 18th.century.The Tupperware of these times

gp · 13th April 2026, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Akanthus

Hi BANDOOK
Very nice Bellarmines.One with the three crosses of Amsterdam.Never thought that one could find them in India nowadays.But i think they were spread worldwide in the 17th.and 18th.century.The Tupperware of these times

Why not found in India….?

The Dutch East India Company (VOC) was active in India from 1604 to 1795, dominant trading power specializing in cotton, silk, opium, and spices. Operating from bases like Surat (Gujarat), Malabar, and Bengal, it rivaled Portuguese and British interests, with its key headquarters located in Kochi after 1663.

Akanthus · 13th April 2026, 11:12 AM

Up to now for me the history India was primarily connected with the british empire.But evey day you learn something new.Masses of Ballarmines were sold from the Rhinelands ,where they were made,over the Netherlands to England.Lot's of goods like vine,beer,oil or even mercury were shipped in these jugs,because they were very stable.In many shipwrecks of these times they are found worldwide.Most jugs which are shown in books or www are found in central Europe ( Germany,Netherlands,Belgium ) or England.Therefore India was not my first choice to find one.

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18th January 2026, 02:43 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,227	Wow, Acanthus, this is really great information and it would seem you are onto something. Now I'll have to do some research on my Bellarmine to see if perhaps it is more than a 'fantasy symbol' on mine. Admittedly, yours is earlier than mine and many of the smaller, early types did indeed have real coats-of-arms.

12th April 2026, 06:06 PM	#4
Akanthus Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Posts: 100	Hi BANDOOK Very nice Bellarmines.One with the three crosses of Amsterdam.Never thought that one could find them in India nowadays.But i think they were spread worldwide in the 17th.and 18th.century.The Tupperware of these times

13th April 2026, 11:12 AM	#6
Akanthus Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Posts: 100	Up to now for me the history India was primarily connected with the british empire.But evey day you learn something new.Masses of Ballarmines were sold from the Rhinelands ,where they were made,over the Netherlands to England.Lot's of goods like vine,beer,oil or even mercury were shipped in these jugs,because they were very stable.In many shipwrecks of these times they are found worldwide.Most jugs which are shown in books or www are found in central Europe ( Germany,Netherlands,Belgium ) or England.Therefore India was not my first choice to find one.