Albanian pistols

[gp]

Originally Posted by corrado26

These pistols from Albania or Greece have fantastic silver stocks. Is there anyone here who can explain to me how these silver shafts with the many dimples were made?

maybe best to contact their museum?

https://www.muzeu-fa.gov.al/english/

or as in the former Yu some books have been written about Balkan weapons by Đurđica Petrović:

https://www.dumus.hr/en/cultural-his...ms-collection/

https://imus.org.rs/en/collection/co...ary-equipment/

and if Greek:

https://warmuseum.gr/en/the-museums/...eum-of-athens/

[corrado26]

Originally Posted by gp

https://www.muzeu-fa.gov.al/english/ No email contact possible with the given mail adress

or as in the former Yu some books have been written about Balkan weapons by Đurđica Petrović:


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I wrote to the Dubrovnik museum and wate for an answer. Thanks a lot for this advice.

[corrado26]

It looks like it is also not possible to contact the museum in Dubrovnik by e-mail; all the addresses given on its homepage do not work. Too bad!

[CutlassCollector]

Just a wild guess.
But carefully dripping melted liquid silver onto the cold brass may cause that effect. Obviously covering areas where you do not want the dimples to go.

It seems more plausible than coating the whole thing with silver and then having to carve out each dimple separately.

[corrado26]

Originally Posted by CutlassCollector

Just a wild guess.
But carefully dripping melted liquid silver onto the cold brass may cause that effect. Obviously covering areas where you do not want the dimples to go.

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That could perhaps be the solution, although I imagine it would be very difficult because the dimples are attached very regularly, which could not have been easily achieved by dripping liquid silver onto the silver surface

[gp]

Originally Posted by corrado26

It looks like it is also not possible to contact the museum in Dubrovnik by e-mail; all the addresses given on its homepage do not work. Too bad!

try this mail address ( it's the secretary of the museum)

tajnistvo@dumus.hr

or otherwise the museum in Zagreb which has a big collection as well


https://www.hismus.hr/en/collections...ion/overview/#

email: MMIGK-LUKOVDOL@HISMUS.HR

keine Atempause, Geschichte wird gemacht..es geht voran ! Translation: no rest for the wicked, go ahead and shoot !

[corrado26]

Originally Posted by gp

try this mail address ( it's the secretary of the museum)

tajnistvo@dumus.hr

Thanks for your help, I sent an email to this adress

[serdar]

This in picture is one of my examples from my ancestors, boka kotorska is little known in the world, but on Balkan it is famous for Ledenice pistols and Pala swords and knives.

Silver "shells" are cast in mould, and put together two halfs of them, 99% of pieces i encountered are made this way.

Beneath them is wooden stock.

There is allso gold plated version with mercury technique of gold plating caled Zlatka or Goldie.

They were only made in Boka kotorska, some authors place them in Greece and Albania but that is not thrue, greek silver pistols are very much diferent, and they never had this style of raised silverwork, let alone albanian ones.
And about Đurđica Petrović book i would skip that, it is full of nonsense and serbian propaganda (for example she proclaims sword schiavonesca which is venetian and there is hungarian version, she proclaimed it serbian sword becouse it has S shaped crossguard, and in serbia they write S in cirilic C, better to awoid book).

You could ask in Kotor museum or Perast museum for more details, but i think that it is zero chance, even goldsmiths in Kotor today, they dont know, im there almost every few months it is my family hometown, that art form is forgoten long time ago.

Are the pistols yours?
They are very nice examples, i would say made for order of some pasha or vezir.

[corrado26]

Originally Posted by serdar

Silver "shells" are cast in mould, and put together two halfs of them, 99% of pieces i encountered are made this way.

Are the pistols yours?
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This is what I wanted to know, many thanks for this help! Finally I know how this silver surface has bee made.
The pair of pistols is not mine, I own another one

[gp]

Originally Posted by serdar

And about Đurđica Petrović book i would skip that, it is full of nonsense and serbian propaganda (for example she proclaims sword schiavonesca which is venetian and there is hungarian version, she proclaimed it serbian sword becouse it has S shaped crossguard, and in serbia they write S in cirilic C, better to awoid book).

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withy all due respect I disagree with you on prof. dr. Petrovic:

you might disagree with some of her findings or she might have made the odd mistake but not only did Elgood use her works / actually copied them on the Balkan cold weapons in his book, but also scolars and historians do quote her...so it can not be all nonsense and certainly is not Serbian propaganda ( she is still used as a source in non Serbian ex Yu countries like Bosnia, Macedonia and Croatia...) and her obituary confirms the oposite...

https://www.academia.edu/53556707/In..._Petrovi%C4%87

I can recommand f.i. her book "Dubrovniker Waffen im 14. Jahrhundert / Dubrovačko oružje u 14. veku"