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Old 10th December 2025, 06:17 PM   #5
Jim McDougall
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Default Hu die dao

This I think may well fall into the hu die dao class, often termed 'butterfly kvives' by collectors as they were most often paired in the same scabbard, effectively a knife in halves for two hand combat. The martial artists in China who often were employed by trade factors along the river networks in China connecting to major ports often went from their 'security' jobs to 'the other side' becoming 'pirates' .

These were much discussed here back in 2009 or so, with Gavin Nugent in his keen interest in these becoming pretty much the resident expert of the time, and I recall the intense research he did on them. I believe he even published at least one article on them with a martial arts magazine.

As Ian notes, there is a distinct similarity to Spanish Colonial espada ancha with the simple strap attachment of the knuckleguard to the pommel...the downturned quillon of the guard also similar but its character resembles some other Chinese weapons. I think the Philippines may account for some of this cross diffusion of features in certain weapons, as of course Chinese trade and presence was notable there.

It would be hard to pinpoint period for this example as these traditional styles were in place for so long. The blade indeed seems a reprofiled blade from much larger sword. not uncommon of course for the sundry blacksmiths and armorers who prevailed throughout these river oriented communities.


PS just crossed posts with Detlef......he has perfect match I think, and I would note here that the 'river pirate' designation cannot of course be deemed specific, but as with all such weapons, it would be hard to say exactly what character of use the weapon might have found. The quillon is tempting to associate with the 'butterfly' knives though tenuously.
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