Information wanted

[Pendita65]

The pictures I took them with my iPhone and an embroidery magnifier with light. So I could not get better images of the Schrager lines
But hope you are able to see them.

Regards, Martin

[Sajen]

Hi Martin,

Yes, I am able to see them. Looks much better on your pictures than from the seller. Congrats, a nice handle and I agree with David and Rick, could be a form of the kocet kocetan form.

Regards,
Detlef

[David]

Cleaned up nicely and i agree that i can see the lines as well.
This is an interesting find because i am fairly certain this is not Balinese (most likely Madurese) and if this is intended as a kocet-kocetan form (and elements of the hilt do point that way) it would be the first time i have seen that form from outside of Bali. I do at least see elements that seem to be insect like in nature. Can you take a photo that looks directly head on at what appears to be the front/belly of the hilt?

[Pendita65]

Hi Detlef and David,

See the pictures of the front and I do belief it’s a Kocet Kocetan

Regards, Martin

[Sajen]

We shouldn't try to classify the handle in question to a specific name i. E. k. kocetan, like David already stated is my personal guess to have a East Javanese handle here which resembles a k. kocetan handle or an insect like figure or their grub carved in ivory and shows a nice patination and also appeals to the eyes, at least to my ones! Only the carver will know which figure it should represent.

Regards,
Detlef

[Rick]

Of course, Detlef.
There's nothing wrong with members expressing their thoughts though. I don't think any one of us has said that this anything definite, just observations, no harm in that.

[Pendita65]

Yes,

it's a ukiran with insect features nicely carved in ivory the face adorned with curly antennae. And maybe someone in the future can tell, we have seen a similar one in Indonesia.

Regards, Martin