As a dagger mounted tombak but from where?

milandro · 26th November 2024, 11:24 AM

I would doubt tat this is Indonesian tombak or it would be a very unusual shape with an even more unusual mount.

It would be important to see the " peksi" because I'd rather suspect a Philippine's origin.

Sajen · 26th November 2024, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by milandro

I would doubt that this is Indonesian tombak or it would be a very unusual shape with an even more unusual mount.

Thank you for your comment!

Like you I never have seen a spear point of this shape from Indonesia so like you I don't believe in an Indonesian origin.

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Originally Posted by milandro

It would be important to see the " peksi" because I'd rather suspect a Philippine's origin.

As soon as I have received it I will post new pictures, also from the tang/pesi. I am not aware of spear points of this shape from the Philippines, have you examples in mind you could show? I rather think of a Malay or Mainland South-East-Asian origin, but I am very unsure.

Regards,
Detlef

milandro · 26th November 2024, 03:07 PM

well the possibility that it may be from the Filippines is just an hunch. I have never see a spear in this shape but there are so many variations there, probably more than in Indonesia.

Sajen · 26th November 2024, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by milandro

well the possibility that it may be from the Filippines is just an hunch. I have never see a spear in this shape but there are so many variations there, probably more than in Indonesia.

Hello Milandro,

I am nearly sure that it isn't from the Philippines!

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 28th November 2024, 12:38 AM

The repousse work is not Philippine nor is the hilt or blade forms.

In addition, the metal is not silver but brass.

Sajen · 28th November 2024, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

The repousse work is not Philippine nor is the hilt or blade forms.

Hello Jose,

Thank you for confirming that it isn't from the Philippines!

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 4th December 2024, 10:43 PM

It arrived today, I've cleaned the blade from surface rust but it needs a bath in lemon juice to clean it properly from all oxidation. Until now I haven't removed the handle to have a look at the pesi/tang. It's a big and heavy Spear point with 1.115 gram with handle and scabbard.
But I've polished the mounts. Here are some first pictures.

4th December 2024, 10:43 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,207	It arrived today, I've cleaned the blade from surface rust but it needs a bath in lemon juice to clean it properly from all oxidation. Until now I haven't removed the handle to have a look at the pesi/tang. It's a big and heavy Spear point with 1.115 gram with handle and scabbard. But I've polished the mounts. Here are some first pictures. Attached Images

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26th November 2024, 11:24 AM	#1
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 492	I would doubt tat this is Indonesian tombak or it would be a very unusual shape with an even more unusual mount. It would be important to see the " peksi" because I'd rather suspect a Philippine's origin.

26th November 2024, 03:07 PM	#3
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 492	well the possibility that it may be from the Filippines is just an hunch. I have never see a spear in this shape but there are so many variations there, probably more than in Indonesia.

28th November 2024, 12:38 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	The repousse work is not Philippine nor is the hilt or blade forms. In addition, the metal is not silver but brass.