Knife/dagger identification problem

[gp]

the other pics showing Ottoman pieces

[gp]

additional: I found at a Croatian website an example of how the remnants of a bolster should look like....but yes...hold your horses...☺☺☺
they could have been "cleaned" away....

[OsobistGB]

And where have I mentioned that Boka was in the Ottoman Empire
It seems to me that we got lost in the translationWith that, my participation in the topic is over
As my beloved neighbor says...Razgovor je počeo da se okreće ka merenju kuraca

[gp]

Originally Posted by OsobistGB

And where have I mentioned that Boka was in the Ottoman Empire
It seems to me that we got lost in the translationWith that, my participation in the topic is over
As my beloved neighbor says...Razgovor je počeo da se okreće ka merenju kuraca

My mistake if I made the Ottoman connection of this type of knives not clear ...my apologies for this mishap. Although Kotor just very briefly was Ottoman but nothing worthwhile to mention compared to the other Balkan regions...but "workshop somewhere in the northwest" would imply Southern Dalmatia ( Ulcinj or so) next to Hercegevina which was under Ottoman banner...

You also have to excuse me as I have no knowledge on Macedonian sayings.... but lets leave it with Immanuel Kant who said "Drei Dinge helfen, die Mühseligkeiten des Lebens zu tragen: Die Hoffnung, der Schlaf und das Lachen "

Nevertheless I liked the above example dagger you showed as an answer to Ian very much! It produced some nice daggers and input. Would have like to know where it can be seen, if not owned by a collector.

[gp]

some more bichaqs to compare:

2 pictures from the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art
1 of a Montengrin gent from 1912 displayung his armor

one film on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpBGyoMCkcY

an older contribution to the forum:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12722

and some pics of a Montenegrin bichaq

the more one sees and also checks the Balkan literature, it clearly looks like the piece from our well respected Bulgarian forum member, sadly the scabbard does not belong to the bichaq and the combination of 2 different items was sold as one set.
This is not oncommon as of my 38 bichaqs and several kamas, this also took place with a few and with items on sale still does if one carefully examines these pieces. Never that type of hilt is matched with that scabbard. That hilt grip is always found on the wooden with cupper covered scabbard