How old is this dagger? Why is the blade so black?

fernando · 21st April 2022, 04:00 PM

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Sajen · 21st April 2022, 09:23 PM

It is a very poorly made recent keris, scabbard is Madura style, blade looks somewhat Balinese and the very poor carved handle is a fantasy produkt.
Sorry for the bad news.

Regards,
Detlef

David · 21st April 2022, 09:39 PM

Detlef, i would say that the blade was made in Madura as well. It does seem that it is an attempt at a Balinese style blade, but not done with much skill.
The handle is poorly carved, but i am not convinced this is a "fantasy product". I have seen this same figure before. This one is just a very poor depiction.
This was probably made within the last 20 years or so.

Sajen · 21st April 2022, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Detlef, i would say that the blade was made in Madura as well. It does seem that it is an attempt at a Balinese style blade, but not done with much skill.

Hello David,
Yes I agree, I write "looks Balinese".

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

The handle is poorly carved, but i am not convinced this is a "fantasy product". I have seen this same figure before. This one is just a very poor depiction.
This was probably made within the last 20 years or so.

Possible! But this one is an insult to my eyes! I hope that Aspalathos not paid too much for it.

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 22nd April 2022, 12:30 AM

Yes, not a real good example of a keris, but it is a keris and several people placed a part of their lives into making it.

It is recent, and it is a fact of life that not everybody either needs or can afford a nice keris.

Looking at it does not offend my eyes, I simply recognise the limits of human existence.

21st April 2022, 09:39 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Detlef, i would say that the blade was made in Madura as well. It does seem that it is an attempt at a Balinese style blade, but not done with much skill. The handle is poorly carved, but i am not convinced this is a "fantasy product". I have seen this same figure before. This one is just a very poor depiction. This was probably made within the last 20 years or so. Last edited by David; 21st April 2022 at 10:00 PM.

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21st April 2022, 04:00 PM	#1
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Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	It is a very poorly made recent keris, scabbard is Madura style, blade looks somewhat Balinese and the very poor carved handle is a fantasy produkt. Sorry for the bad news. Regards, Detlef

22nd April 2022, 12:30 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Yes, not a real good example of a keris, but it is a keris and several people placed a part of their lives into making it. It is recent, and it is a fact of life that not everybody either needs or can afford a nice keris. Looking at it does not offend my eyes, I simply recognise the limits of human existence.