Tboli Sudeng - input please

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Originally Posted by Marbel

Correct, it’s definitely Moro.

However as noted, these are often prized and owned by Tboli datus. This piece is specifically owned by the family of a late Tboli datu. The Tboli call this type of weapon a sudeng. I do apologize if my original post was a bit confusing. If removed from its provenance, there would be no Tboli connection. For those interested in the interactions between the Lumad of Mindanao and the neighboring Moro groups, I thought it would be useful to note that these swords are often kept as heirloom pieces by the Tboli and considered there own.

My hope is that I can learn from the Moro-expert members here about what can be deciphered from the photos. Any thoughts on age? The different elements of the sword, hilt, scabbard, etc.

Thank you.

Hi, my knowledge on Lumad-appropriated kris is limited...what I've researched about concerns the Teduray/Tiruray, who still use Bangsamoro kris nowadays for their dances. The kris is also an everyday carry for some of them.

Me and a friend used to own kris that had Lumad signatures- the scabbard, scabbard effects, how the tang was inserted, etc- and culminated in a broken greneng and lack of baca-baca.

A Lumad expert also told me that the different Lumad tribes actually place great importance on the symbolism of the different parts of the kris, very much like how each part of the keris has esoteric significance.

With regard to fighting arts, some Lumad tribes have passed-down martial knowledge, a possible distant relative of Moro Fighting Arts (MFA).