Is this a Kindjal for tourists ?

fernando · 14th May 2006, 08:47 PM

I never had one of these pieces.
The whole aspect ( after i got home ) looks to me very modern and for tourism, except for the 11 inches blade, which is real and sharp like an army bayonet (say). It is covered (from origin? ) with varnish, to prevent the rust.
Would anyone regconize the blade maker's marks, and also the monogram in the scabbard ?
Thanks in advance
fernando

ariel · 14th May 2006, 10:50 PM

Looks very Syrian.

fernando · 15th May 2006, 06:36 PM

Thank you Ariel.
Not much material in the Web for Syrian specimens, that i can spot.
Do you know of any Web track i can look into ?
fernando

fernando · 20th May 2006, 09:20 PM

I have made a leather loop and hung this kindjal from my belt. It hangs nearly upright, and not in angle, as one may see them being used by many pictured traditionals.Well, the scabbard is rather heavy, as made in solid ( nickeled ) brass. Would this be a variation used in some areas ... like Syria, as per Ariel, or does it simply define it as a replica?
Would any member give an idea on that monogram lettering ? I have looked into Syriac, Georgian and Arabic lettering, but i couldn't figure out any relation.
As i said before, the blade has a fine aspect, with its offset fullers . I just wonder if that multiple marking is a real maker contrast or just an embelishment.
What would be the name of these weapons in Syrian ... not certainly kindjal?!
Will i have any luck ?
Thanks

Rivkin · 22nd May 2006, 11:07 PM

This is an interesting kindjal. The marks are not letters, but more like an imitation of marks of old kindjal blades; production is most likely XXth century. I doubt it is to be some typical tourist production, the quality however is not the same as with caucasian examples. Interesting.

fernando · 23rd May 2006, 12:28 AM

Thank you so much for the clarification, Kirill.
I assume the monogram on the scabbard is also an imitation of some earlier custom. It looks like three initials entangled. Do you have any idea what this lettering would be? they don't look like western letters.
Thanks again
fernando

14th May 2006, 08:47 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Is this a Kindjal for tourists ? I never had one of these pieces. The whole aspect ( after i got home ) looks to me very modern and for tourism, except for the 11 inches blade, which is real and sharp like an army bayonet (say). It is covered (from origin? ) with varnish, to prevent the rust. Would anyone regconize the blade maker's marks, and also the monogram in the scabbard ? Thanks in advance fernando Attached Images

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14th May 2006, 10:50 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Looks very Syrian.

15th May 2006, 06:36 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you Ariel. Not much material in the Web for Syrian specimens, that i can spot. Do you know of any Web track i can look into ? fernando

20th May 2006, 09:20 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I have made a leather loop and hung this kindjal from my belt. It hangs nearly upright, and not in angle, as one may see them being used by many pictured traditionals.Well, the scabbard is rather heavy, as made in solid ( nickeled ) brass. Would this be a variation used in some areas ... like Syria, as per Ariel, or does it simply define it as a replica? Would any member give an idea on that monogram lettering ? I have looked into Syriac, Georgian and Arabic lettering, but i couldn't figure out any relation. As i said before, the blade has a fine aspect, with its offset fullers . I just wonder if that multiple marking is a real maker contrast or just an embelishment. What would be the name of these weapons in Syrian ... not certainly kindjal?! Will i have any luck ? Thanks

22nd May 2006, 11:07 PM	#5
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	This is an interesting kindjal. The marks are not letters, but more like an imitation of marks of old kindjal blades; production is most likely XXth century. I doubt it is to be some typical tourist production, the quality however is not the same as with caucasian examples. Interesting.

23rd May 2006, 12:28 AM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you so much for the clarification, Kirill. I assume the monogram on the scabbard is also an imitation of some earlier custom. It looks like three initials entangled. Do you have any idea what this lettering would be? they don't look like western letters. Thanks again fernando