Restored Balkan Yataghan That Needs Translation

Battara · 30th December 2020, 11:05 PM

How wonderful GP! I'm so glad it is not a dead art. I have always admired their work, which I find more challenging than modern Russian, etc. filigree, though their filigree is very good.

Thank you for your offer of help and may just take you up on that.

And again thank you - all of my metal work and restoration work is self-taught. Not easy but I never had the money nor time to apprentice or go to school for training.

BTW - When I was in Fez Morocco (2007), I was able to watch the brass, copper, and silver smiths at their crafts while spending time in the Medina. I said to myself that one day when I grow up I would learn how to do similar work.

Still so much to learn.

gp · 31st December 2020, 08:43 PM

here some pics of antique filigree from Bosnia; a bichaq and a belt

gp · 31st December 2020, 08:45 PM

and some pics that the art is still alive and being made to the present day, first some jewelry from Sarajevo

gp · 31st December 2020, 08:48 PM

and secondly from Southern Dalmatia ( Konavje and Dubrovnik) where these earrings are still made and given to the girls ( as I did for my daughter years ago when she became 16...)

Battara · 31st December 2020, 11:51 PM

Very nice! Thank you!

Sajen · 16th January 2021, 12:42 PM

Amazing work Jose! And a very nice yataghan, congrats!

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 22nd February 2021, 01:58 AM

Since this thread i've tried and tried to compare the tughra with the Ottoman Sultan tughras and am stumped. A couple of possibilities but nothing firm.

Is there anyone who can translate the bottom half (or take an educated guess) of the tughra? This is supposed to be where the name of the sultan should be. The sultan's name would help narrow down the age of this yataghan.

By the way, the place of manufacture would be Focha, Bosnia (according to Elgood).

ariel · 1st March 2021, 10:19 AM

As per Elgood, smooth round corals is a trademark of Foca.
Excellent job, Jose!

31st December 2020, 08:43 PM	#2
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 990	here some pics of antique filigree from Bosnia; a bichaq and a belt Attached Images

31st December 2020, 08:45 PM	#3
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 990	and some pics that the art is still alive and being made to the present day, first some jewelry from Sarajevo Attached Images

31st December 2020, 08:48 PM	#4
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 990	and secondly from Southern Dalmatia ( Konavje and Dubrovnik) where these earrings are still made and given to the girls ( as I did for my daughter years ago when she became 16...) Attached Images Last edited by gp; 31st December 2020 at 09:31 PM.

22nd February 2021, 01:58 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,379	Since this thread i've tried and tried to compare the tughra with the Ottoman Sultan tughras and am stumped. A couple of possibilities but nothing firm. Is there anyone who can translate the bottom half (or take an educated guess) of the tughra? This is supposed to be where the name of the sultan should be. The sultan's name would help narrow down the age of this yataghan. By the way, the place of manufacture would be Focha, Bosnia (according to Elgood). Attached Images

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30th December 2020, 11:05 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,379	How wonderful GP! I'm so glad it is not a dead art. I have always admired their work, which I find more challenging than modern Russian, etc. filigree, though their filigree is very good. Thank you for your offer of help and may just take you up on that. And again thank you - all of my metal work and restoration work is self-taught. Not easy but I never had the money nor time to apprentice or go to school for training. BTW - When I was in Fez Morocco (2007), I was able to watch the brass, copper, and silver smiths at their crafts while spending time in the Medina. I said to myself that one day when I grow up I would learn how to do similar work. Still so much to learn.

31st December 2020, 11:51 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,379	Very nice! Thank you!

16th January 2021, 12:42 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,646	Amazing work Jose! And a very nice yataghan, congrats! Regards, Detlef

1st March 2021, 10:19 AM	#8
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	As per Elgood, smooth round corals is a trademark of Foca. Excellent job, Jose!