Visayan Kukri?

VVV · 12th May 2006, 02:30 PM

Does any forumite recognise what kind of blade this is?
It looks like an oversized sickle but holding it in the reverse grip the balance is wrong.
If I however hold it in a hammer grip, like a Kukri, the balance is perfect.
The edge is on the inside and it's quite heavy.
To heavy IMO to be an agricultural tool.
The blade is 38 cm, almost 15".

Michael

ariel · 12th May 2006, 02:44 PM

Might function as a Katar, too.

Spunjer · 12th May 2006, 03:04 PM

michael,

looks like a garab (ilonggo for 'scythe') to me.

pronounced grr'rub...

Spunjer · 12th May 2006, 03:23 PM

here's a picture of nonoy, a tuba collector. checkout his side arms..

VVV · 12th May 2006, 03:36 PM

Thanks Spunjer,

Did you see with what kind of grip Nonoy used it?
And why do you think it has a monster/Bakunawa hilt?

Michael

Spunjer · 12th May 2006, 03:52 PM

michael,
i'm guessing you have an old, old type, ergo the 'diety' hilt. nowadays, the batikulun (gizzard) type is more common, as what nonoy have on his. here's a close up on a modern binangon handle.

VVV · 12th May 2006, 03:56 PM

Thanks!

Michael

VANDOO · 12th May 2006, 07:29 PM

A VERY IMPORTANT KNIFE INDEED IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY TUBA IS THE NAME OF THE LOCAL ALCHOLIC BEVERAGE, NO COCK FIGHT COULD BE HELD WITHOUT IT

PERHAPS THE KNIFE IS MADE AS IT IS TO FACILITATE ITS USE WHILE HANGING IN A PALM TREE HIGH ABOVE THE GROUND WHERE A SPECILIZED CUTTING TOOL WOULD BE VERY HANDY.

tom hyle · 12th May 2006, 10:10 PM

Yes; it's for draining palm juice from the trunk, I think? I think the man with the sword climbed?

zelbone · 12th May 2006, 11:35 PM

Another term I think for this type of tool is called sangot...I forgot which dialect uses it. It's used to also harvest coconuts.

RobT · 13th May 2006, 04:34 AM

Wow VVV,
You have the best tuba knife I've ever seen. It's listed in Stone's on pg 641 (both the diety and chicken gizzard styles). Many thanks to Vandoo for the info that tuba is an alcoholic beverage from the palm tree. I'd sure like to try some.
Sincerely,
RobT

drdavid · 13th May 2006, 06:18 AM

Hey RobT
from someone who has tried the local palm beverages in a couple of countries they give nasty nasty hangovers (particularly if you are committed to bouncing around in a jeep at 6am the next morning).
cheers
DrD

mmontoro · 16th May 2006, 05:20 PM

Here are the image and description from Stone's Glossary

Spunjer, that's a great picture of Nonoy.

M.

12th May 2006, 02:30 PM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Visayan Kukri? Does any forumite recognise what kind of blade this is? It looks like an oversized sickle but holding it in the reverse grip the balance is wrong. If I however hold it in a hammer grip, like a Kukri, the balance is perfect. The edge is on the inside and it's quite heavy. To heavy IMO to be an agricultural tool. The blade is 38 cm, almost 15". Michael Attached Images

12th May 2006, 03:52 PM	#6
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	michael, i'm guessing you have an old, old type, ergo the 'diety' hilt. nowadays, the batikulun (gizzard) type is more common, as what nonoy have on his. here's a close up on a modern binangon handle. Attached Images

13th May 2006, 04:34 AM	#11
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 493	top of the line Wow VVV, You have the best tuba knife I've ever seen. It's listed in Stone's on pg 641 (both the diety and chicken gizzard styles). Many thanks to Vandoo for the info that tuba is an alcoholic beverage from the palm tree. I'd sure like to try some. Sincerely, RobT

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12th May 2006, 02:44 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Might function as a Katar, too.

12th May 2006, 03:04 PM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	michael, looks like a garab (ilonggo for 'scythe') to me. pronounced grr'rub...

12th May 2006, 03:23 PM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	here's a picture of nonoy, a tuba collector. checkout his side arms..

12th May 2006, 03:36 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Spunjer, Did you see with what kind of grip Nonoy used it? And why do you think it has a monster/Bakunawa hilt? Michael

12th May 2006, 03:56 PM	#7
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks! Michael

12th May 2006, 07:29 PM	#8
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY IMPORTANT KNIFE INDEED IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY TUBA IS THE NAME OF THE LOCAL ALCHOLIC BEVERAGE, NO COCK FIGHT COULD BE HELD WITHOUT IT PERHAPS THE KNIFE IS MADE AS IT IS TO FACILITATE ITS USE WHILE HANGING IN A PALM TREE HIGH ABOVE THE GROUND WHERE A SPECILIZED CUTTING TOOL WOULD BE VERY HANDY.

12th May 2006, 10:10 PM	#9
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Yes; it's for draining palm juice from the trunk, I think? I think the man with the sword climbed?

12th May 2006, 11:35 PM	#10
zelbone Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: VISAYAS and MINDANAO Posts: 169	Another term I think for this type of tool is called sangot...I forgot which dialect uses it. It's used to also harvest coconuts.

13th May 2006, 06:18 AM	#12
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 371	Hey RobT from someone who has tried the local palm beverages in a couple of countries they give nasty nasty hangovers (particularly if you are committed to bouncing around in a jeep at 6am the next morning). cheers DrD

16th May 2006, 05:20 PM	#13
mmontoro Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 91	Here are the image and description from Stone's Glossary Spunjer, that's a great picture of Nonoy. M.