Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 22nd November 2019, 11:21 PM   #31
kwiatek
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 153
Default

The first says:

صنع في بنزرت

suni’a fi binzart

“Made in Benzart (Bizerte)”

The second says, I think:

اسلاح (السلاح) نافع للعدو دافع

a(l)-silah nafi’ li’l-‘aduww dafi’

“The weapon is useful, it repels the enemy.”

Both are in a Maghribi hand
kwiatek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th December 2019, 03:46 AM   #32
G. Mansfield
Member
 
G. Mansfield's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Posts: 83
Default

I believe these examples are from the early 20th century, souk pieces, but post #1 is definitely an older piece. I have also seen similar hilt decoration with the brass circle-dot, brass wire, tacks, and coral from the late 19th century with Balkan form handles like that of Sarajevo models. Attached is an example that I received earlier this year very similar to the examples previously posted above.

-Geoff
Attached Images
  
G. Mansfield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th December 2019, 03:24 AM   #33
G. Mansfield
Member
 
G. Mansfield's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Posts: 83
Default

Here is a similar decorated bichaq in Balkan form next to the Tunisian dagger. Notice how the coral and brass inlays are almost identical between the two. Could the Bizerte dagger's decoration have been influenced from across the Mediterranean from Ottoman times and trade? Posted also is another closely related example from Oriental arms described as Mediterranean
/Balkan and dated 1278 (1861).

Link: http://oriental-arms.co.il/item.php?id=5845

-Geoff
Attached Images
    
G. Mansfield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th December 2019, 12:10 PM   #34
francantolin
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 876
Default

Really nice item !

Sure the shape of the hilt looks like a Sarajevo bichaq !
Maybe this one comes not from balkan but
has been made in Tunisia for east Europa market ?
francantolin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th December 2019, 02:22 PM   #35
Kubur
Member
 
Kubur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,145
Default

Both dagger and knife are from Tunsia hence the similarity...

Oriental arms is like Tirri's book extremely usefull but a lot of mistakes.
Kubur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th March 2024, 06:58 AM   #36
Ian
Vikingsword Staff
 
Ian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: The Aussie Bush
Posts: 4,200
Default Another Tunisian knife

I picked this one up recently via online auction. Although highly decorative it is quite functional. I like these knives/daggers for their overall form and for the decoration. Unfortunately, no scabbard.

Ian.
.
Attached Images
  
Ian is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.