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Old 8th June 2019, 04:09 PM   #1
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Here the golden calligraphy,
can anybody translate ?
( If possible )
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Old 8th June 2019, 04:12 PM   #2
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Old 8th June 2019, 04:14 PM   #3
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I just recognise '' Allah ''
in the center of this picture.
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Old 8th June 2019, 10:37 PM   #4
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Smile ottoman kilich blade ??

What this is ,is a cheap newly made syrian imitation of an ottoman blade, floating in numbers in istanbul going for about 100 -150 us dollars.The overlay is not ottoman but again simply a degenerated copy of kufic work which is difficult to translate.The shape of blade
its size ,possibly its weight and the ornementation are all wrong.Sorry to be sounding very negative but Id let the buyer beaware (cveat emptor )
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Old 10th June 2019, 04:38 PM   #5
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What this is ,is a cheap newly made syrian imitation of an ottoman blade, floating in numbers in istanbul going for about 100 -150 us dollars.The overlay is not ottoman but again simply a degenerated copy of kufic work which is difficult to translate.The shape of blade
its size ,possibly its weight and the ornementation are all wrong.Sorry to be sounding very negative but Id let the buyer beaware (cveat emptor )
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Hello,
I find the quality of this blade quite good, ( flexible-but not that much)
the engravings are really well made, not cheap touristic work

If they are like this one, 150 $ is a really good price !
have you got a picture of these swords to compare please ?
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Old 10th June 2019, 09:01 PM   #6
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What this is ,is a cheap newly made syrian imitation of an ottoman blade, floating in numbers in istanbul going for about 100 -150 us dollars.The overlay is not ottoman but again simply a degenerated copy of kufic work which is difficult to translate.The shape of blade
its size ,possibly its weight and the ornementation are all wrong.Sorry to be sounding very negative but Id let the buyer beaware (cveat emptor )
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Well, last images do show a tight wootz pattern. I know the swords you are talking about, this one is not one of them.
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Old 10th June 2019, 09:44 PM   #7
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What this is ,is a cheap newly made syrian imitation of an ottoman blade, floating in numbers in istanbul going for about 100 -150 us dollars.The overlay is not ottoman but again simply a degenerated copy of kufic work which is difficult to translate.The shape of blade
its size ,possibly its weight and the ornementation are all wrong.Sorry to be sounding very negative but Id let the buyer beaware (cveat emptor )
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Yata is absolutely right, this blade is absolutely crap.
I was thinking that the rules are we can't talk about something for sale...
I suspect that no dealer on the forum will buy this sword so the rules can be transpassed...
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Old 19th June 2019, 12:55 PM   #8
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So, the blade,
polished and etched a little.

Not that bad for a scrap tourist blade isn't it !?!!!

Can someone help for exact origin and age,
would be fair !

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Old 19th June 2019, 02:30 PM   #9
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So, the blade,
polished and etched a little.

Not that bad for a scrap tourist blade isn't it !?!!!

Can someone help for exact origin and age,
would be fair !

Kind regards
Well done! could etch even better. Pattern looks Persian? I am no expert in identifying patterns but definitely well made. Inscriptions are odd. If you can send better photos I will try to read. Email them to me (check private messages)
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Old 20th June 2019, 08:11 AM   #10
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So, the blade,
polished and etched a little.

Not that bad for a scrap tourist blade isn't it !?!!!

Can someone help for exact origin and age,
would be fair !

Kind regards
Not bad at all !!! Good job etching!
I was also surprised by some negative comments on this blade. It is not to be confused with modern blades from Istanbul, other markets and on-line, it is nothing like. It is of crucible steel, the writing is unusual but in true inlay and of good quality, the box is also fine. The blade looks to be 19thC, probably Persian or Syrian (I'd say Syrian, as the box is Syrian, as other items it came with). Can be restored nicely by adding proper crossguard and hilt.
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Old 9th June 2019, 01:50 PM   #11
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Hello,

Can you take better photos of the steel? Syrians make blades that look great but those blades tend to be crowbar heavy. A pattern can tell a lot. Tang is definitely new but that is ok.
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Old 9th June 2019, 11:02 PM   #12
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Hello,

Here some closest pics,
Not to easy to do...

First I found just this kind of stripes on the blade
( + lot of scratches ... )
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Old 9th June 2019, 11:06 PM   #13
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In a few places,
I found I guess a pattern...
What do you think ?
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Old 10th June 2019, 05:34 AM   #14
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Gold looks a lot better than the modern stuff so I am not sure. Polish a small area and etch?
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