17th December 2018, 05:06 PM | #1 |
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silver pointer ? Dutch, oriental, judaica ?
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I just bought this silver object, I really liked the shape and the specials engravings : animals and characters I don't know what it was made for, the seller sold it as an umbrella hilt but I don't think so, seems a little like an jewish yad ?! ( just a little !...) Any advice ? Thank you Franck |
17th December 2018, 05:07 PM | #2 |
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total length is 8,25 inches...
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17th December 2018, 07:15 PM | #3 |
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This is a guess, I do not know the purpose of this item.
However I have seen something similar that was the end of a long stick used to move drapes on their rod, it was all wood, it had a ring towards the point that had a cord through it, the bent point was placed against the suspension ring of the drapes, the cord was pulled on to move the drapes along the rod. |
18th December 2018, 03:59 PM | #4 |
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Hello,
Thank you Maisey, have you perhaps a picture of this kind of stick ? this point is not a hook at all , no ring attach at the end. More an icicle shape, or twisted horn ? cornucopia ?( ritual ? ) Maybe a spindle for spinning wool or silk I saw some made of iron but why in silver ??... |
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18th December 2018, 05:10 PM | #6 |
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Just for perusal, the first torah reading implements did not end with a hand finger shape, but with that of a school teacher tapering pointer.
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18th December 2018, 05:34 PM | #7 |
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Seems Ok !
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19th December 2018, 11:31 PM | #8 |
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I was thinking a Torah pointer.
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21st December 2018, 01:19 AM | #9 |
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I believe the correct term for this type of pointer is "Yad"
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21st December 2018, 01:31 PM | #10 |
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Hello, Yes,
I was asking about jewish yad shape on my first thread, Yad-Yed ( prononciation ) is the hebrew-arabic name for the hand, This one is interesting with this special shape ( that's why I wonder about this item ) An early form of pointer as Fernando wrote. Kind regards |
29th December 2018, 04:30 AM | #11 |
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have you perhaps a picture of this kind of stick ? this point is not a hook at all , no ring attach at the end. More an icicle shape, or twisted horn ? cornucopia ?( ritual ? ) Maybe a spindle for spinning wool or silk I saw some made of iron but why in silver ??... The rod I saw that was used to move curtains also did not have a hook at the end, it had a bent or waved end, the same as your silver one, but the one I saw was made of wood. The bend, or wave rested against the round curtain rod. A little way down from its end your silver item has a ring. A little way from the end, the wooden rod I saw had a ring in approximately the same place. To all intents and purposes your silver item, and the last 12" or so of the wooden rod I saw were the same, in fact almost exactly the same, except yours is silver, what I saw was wood. I saw this rod in 2012 in a farmhouse in Tuscany, Italy. I saw the rod in use a number of times, I was staying in the farmhouse for about a month. I did not photograph it, indeed, if I saw the same thing again tomorrow I would not photograph it:- household appliances are not of much interest to me. I am not arguing for acceptance of my suggestion, I am simply stating that I have seen an object with the same design as the silver item under discussion, and that I saw it used a number of times for a specific purpose. I have placed this second post because it appears from post #4 that my post #3 was not at all understood. |
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